Thinking about using Test any advice helpful!

[Hymers]

Ok guys so im new here and read a few of the "new members click here" posts and they have great info i may of missed a few, so if i have please redirect me, and also everyone starts somewhere, i want to learn

So a lot of my gym buddies are using Test 400 and they have great gains from it. My question is im thinking about going on just Test, more then likely something not as painful as Test 400 and i was looking for expert opinions and information about it so i have some basic knowledge. So if anyone has used Test before.. what did you use? should i use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as Arimidex along side as this is my first time? Also would test help me loose BF? im around 23% 210lbs at the moment and was just wondering as i don't want to gain anymore

Thank you for your time and dealing with this novice

 

[unknown21]

You need to lose a ton of weight before you even think about doinng AAS. Do not start a cycle at that high p % bodyfat. Get in shape before you do aas at least.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

read all the stickys and get familiar with the additional tools you will need other than the AAS , such as Aromatase inhibitor (AI) drugs and PCT drugs to get your body back on its own

your BF is a little high that will make the test convert to estrogen faster and limit you, go with test only and add anavar at the end to squeeze that water out

 

[dtownry]

Interesting question and an even better answer. So polite LOL.

Seriously though, with the BF what do you think is a safe threshold for AAS as to not excel the estrogen conversion? I have never really thought about it but it is good info to have. I am not a fat ass, but I know people who are so it is a good tool in the toolbox when talking with them.

 

[Hymers]

read all the stickys and get familiar with the additional tools you will need other than the AAS , such as Aromatase inhibitor (AI) drugs and PCT drugs to get your body back on its own

your BF is a little high that will make the test convert to estrogen faster and limit you, go with test only and add anavar at the end to squeeze that water out

True my BF is high but i'm doing a lot of cardio lately so im hoping to get it down, i've been doing some research and i was wondering if i should just go on Anavar until i get a low enough BF, what do you think?

 

[Hymers]

Interesting question and an even better answer. So polite LOL.

Seriously though, with the BF what do you think is a safe threshold for AAS as to not excel the estrogen conversion? I have never really thought about it but it is good info to have. I am not a fat ass, but I know people who are so it is a good tool in the toolbox when talking with them.

Well manners cost nothing buddy! but i can be a total dick sometimes as well haha but i know what you mean, my bodyfat was/is high like i said to Brhees i'm loosing the fat i may be around 19% now i havent checked for a while

 

[Cowboyman]

You got a good diet?

 

[tbonexl]

Apparently you didn't do much research if you want to do an anavar only cycle now...

 

[dtownry]

Apparently you didn't do much research if you want to do an anavar only cycle now...

Enlighten us please.

 

[unknown21]

Never do a var only cycle. Come on dude.

 

[Hymers]

Never do a var only cycle. Come on dude.

Why not? as i say I'm learning still so constructive criticism would be great not just a "don't do it" would it be best to do it with a small amount of test and a AI?

 

[Hymers]

Apparently you didn't do much research if you want to do an anavar only cycle now...

If you would like to leave constructive criticism then by all means please reply, if you're just going to leave a comment like that then don't waste your time, it doesn't help me or anyone in any way.

 

[Hymers]

You got a good diet?

Yeah my diet has massively improved, i said i had around 23% BF but that was using a measurement i used a long time ago i have just done rough measurement and I'm around 19% as i guessed in another post so I'm loosing the fat

 

[kaname]

If you would like to leave constructive criticism then by all means please reply, if you're just going to leave a comment like that then don't waste your time, it doesn't help me or anyone in any way.

They leave it short some times when some in a thread have stated or implied that they have researched the subject. There multiple threads on the subject (I will post one at the bottom). The reason I'm guess he didn't want to break it down, nor me for that matter is because it's way too many threads on the subject and you can read them for yourself. Most of them tend to go the way of the thread I'm posting at the bottom. When someone wants that quick fix they tend to argue you down about why they should do it, or why no matter what you say they just can't "see" what you're talking about without more "evidence."

And if you are trying to drop body fat so you can start a cycle a lot of people will say lose the weight through diet because all too many times someone is looking for that quick magic fix and they aren't really committed to the diet / training / lifestyle change.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

 

[jh2484]

If your looking for something to help lose weight then try eca stack clen t3 or other type fat burning cycles test won't make you drop bf really it can help but nothing crazy and can get bloated and retain water so not something you want with high bf anavar dose help with belly fat or does with me best abs ever on var but never run a oral only so if you are going to run gear I would say if your 19 bf now work hard try to get to 15 and then run

250 test e per week
60mg anavar per day

 

[Hymers]

They leave it short some times when some in a thread have stated or implied that they have researched the subject. There multiple threads on the subject (I will post one at the bottom). The reason I'm guess he didn't want to break it down, nor me for that matter is because it's way too many threads on the subject and you can read them for yourself. Most of them tend to go the way of the thread I'm posting at the bottom. When someone wants that quick fix they tend to argue you down about why they should do it, or why no matter what you say they just can't "see" what you're talking about without more "evidence."

And if you are trying to drop body fat so you can start a cycle a lot of people will say lose the weight through diet because all too many times someone is looking for that quick magic fix and they aren't really committed to the diet / training / lifestyle change.

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

I have researched the subject of using a Anv only cycle and lots of people have said they see results from it, i swear i have said before that i personally wouldn't take ONLY anavar but meaning anavar with test but anyway.. i know what anavar does and didn't understand why he said "Apparently you didn't do much research if you want to do an anavar only cycle now..." that's insanely vague and assuming i know nothing. I did the research, i was wanting to know his opinion. What you said and what you did was very helpful by posting a link, that is helpful and thank you for doing so. Like i said very vague or not helpful comments are just pointless, just copy and pasting a link is less effort that taking the time to type "Apparently you didn't do much research if you want to do an anavar only cycle now..." anyway.. rant over

Ive been natural for around 5 years and have been around 5% before, my bulk this year was a dirty one and lots of people i know are using steroids, so i am a "beginner" as it were to taking steroids, but i am very committed to the life style, training and diet. And I'm not after that "quick fix" I'm after better results in the long run, that is why i am looking into.. and i assume everyone here takes the gear, am i wrong?

 

[Hymers]

If your looking for something to help lose weight then try eca stack clen t3 or other type fat burning cycles test won't make you drop bf really it can help but nothing crazy and can get bloated and retain water so not something you want with high bf anavar dose help with belly fat or does with me best abs ever on var but never run a oral only so if you are going to run gear I would say if your 19 bf now work hard try to get to 15 and then run

250 test e per week
60mg anavar per day

Ive heard a lot of horror stories about Clen so I'm on edge weather to use them, have you ever tried them? and yeah i didn't think test would help really for burning fat, i assume the only way it could is when you grow from the test and the muscle helps get rid of the fat? but thanks for the info you think i should take a anavar and test cycle then? but yeah I'm working hard to get the BF down as low as possible

 

[Gearedup26]

Var only never man and as far as using test most defiantly a good cycle choice but bro honestly your prob 6 months out from even considering using gear you will bulk up with out a doubt but with a higher body fat your going to retain a lot of water and look bloated not a good look.

 

[Hymers]

Var only never man and as far as using test most defiantly a good cycle choice but bro honestly your prob 6 months out from even considering using gear you will bulk up with out a doubt but with a higher body fat your going to retain a lot of water and look bloated not a good look.

Even using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like arimidex or nolva would i bloat up?

 

[Carnagereport11]

I think using the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) does help with bloating...