This is Part of the Problem...

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This is an article from US News. It's basically saying to do everything else except TRT. What bothers is that you don't really here this about women who get HRT. Doctors will line up to give them the estrogen patch, but for some reason low T levels in a man are just a part of aging. "Rub some dirt on it and get back to work", seems to be what they are saying. I'll include a link for the full article at the bottom.

Not so fast. Lobbying a doctor for a dose of the male hormone before looking for other reasons for your problem is a bad idea. If low testosterone isn't the culprit, focusing on it wastes time and money better spent on finding the real cause, perhaps a circulatory condition, that could pose a greater threat to your health. And even if your testosterone is slightly low, there's no guarantee that kicking it up pharmaceutically will help, says Peter Snyder, professor of medicine at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine who has studied testosterone for 35 years. "There are people who are looking for the Fountain of Youth," he says. The reality, he says, is that they "are not acting on the basis of evidence."

Current research hinting that a testosterone hike has health benefits for the average man is "tantalizing but by no means conclusive," says Snyder, who is directing the "T-Trial," a $47 million study now recruiting participants that should take a large step toward the ultimate answer. Sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, the trial will follow 800 low-testosterone men age 65 and older *with a possibly related physical, sexual, or other problem for two years to see how much they benefit from a testosterone gel supplement. Evan Hadley, director of the division of geriatrics and clinical gerontology at the NIH's National Institute on Aging, estimates researchers will publish results in about six years. If the benefits are significant, a larger trial will assess risks. That will take another six years.


health.usnews.com/health-news/managing-your-healthcare/sexual-and-reproductive-health/articles/2010/11/05/no-magic-in-testosterone-replacement-therapy.html?PageNr=1
 
Great read, bro! Yeah, "circulatory condition"...

As in, "Can I please get my testosterone levels back to normal so I can get some CIRCULATION to my DICK"!!

CAN WE GET A WITNESS FROM THE CONGREGATION!!!!
 
that's what we need. A study on geriatrics to see if Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is right for me.

Fucking idiots. I hate doctors.
 
This is an article from US News. It's basically saying to do everything else except TRT. What bothers is that you don't really here this about women who get HRT. Doctors will line up to give them the estrogen patch, but for some reason low T levels in a man are just a part of aging. "Rub some dirt on it and get back to work", seems to be what they are saying. I'll include a link for the full article at the bottom.

Not so fast. Lobbying a doctor for a dose of the male hormone before looking for other reasons for your problem is a bad idea. If low testosterone isn't the culprit, focusing on it wastes time and money better spent on finding the real cause, perhaps a circulatory condition, that could pose a greater threat to your health. And even if your testosterone is slightly low, there's no guarantee that kicking it up pharmaceutically will help, says Peter Snyder, professor of medicine at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine who has studied testosterone for 35 years. "There are people who are looking for the Fountain of Youth," he says. The reality, he says, is that they "are not acting on the basis of evidence."

Current research hinting that a testosterone hike has health benefits for the average man is "tantalizing but by no means conclusive," says Snyder, who is directing the "T-Trial," a $47 million study now recruiting participants that should take a large step toward the ultimate answer. Sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, the trial will follow 800 low-testosterone men age 65 and older *with a possibly related physical, sexual, or other problem for two years to see how much they benefit from a testosterone gel supplement. Evan Hadley, director of the division of geriatrics and clinical gerontology at the NIH's National Institute on Aging, estimates researchers will publish results in about six years. If the benefits are significant, a larger trial will assess risks. That will take another six years.


health.usnews.com/health-news/managing-your-healthcare/sexual-and-reproductive-health/articles/2010/11/05/no-magic-in-testosterone-replacement-therapy.html?PageNr=1


The more I read about dumbass doctors, the less likely I will ever go to a doc again. I sometimes wonder what in the world "Med School" is actually teaching them these days, especially about Testosterone therapy...... apparently "nothing."

Oh and one more thing.... Fuck your Test Gel doctor!!!!!
 
I would slap the shit out of a Doctor if they said "having low test doesnt effect you, it could be something else". Do they even talk to people who have taken testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or people who self medicate them selves? Just because you have a fucking PH.D dont mean shit.

Not going to get into a drug debate here or whatever. But it is shown people who up there "test" levels are more aware, happier, more agile the list goes on an on.

I should have decided to go to school to become a fucking doctor. "So what seems to be the issue today with you sir? Oh, need something to cheer you up an not care? I got something just in store!!!!!"

You cant say you know shit about something, unless you actually have done it and have taken personal study with it... YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!... OK </RANT>
 
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My doc is over 70 years old and I thank god he is still eager to learn. At first he put me on Androgel because that's what was pushed by the pharma sales reps and he didn't have much experience with trt. I tried it for a while and it didn't do dick. I then did research on this site (and others) about injectables and went back to see him. He sat at a computer with me and looked at everything with me. No rush at all, probably took a good hour. After looking he said, "makes sense" and wrote me a scrip for test cyp.
 
I finally have my 79 YO father interested in test supplementation. He just wants strength back that he has lost over the years. I hope to god he does something as the benefits would be tremendous for broken bones, strength, energy, etc.

Nate, you have an unusual doctor and glad you do. When I told my doc I was taking test, he said: "get bigger" meaning get strong and it will help my joint problems at the same time. Mine was all for it.
 
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I would slap the shit out of a Doctor if they said "having low test doesnt effect you, it could be something else". Do they even talk to people who have taken testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or people who self medicate them selves? Just because you have a fucking PH.D dont mean shit.

Not going to get into a drug debate here or whatever. But it is shown people who up there "test" levels are more aware, happier, more agile the list goes on an on.

I should have decided to go to school to become a fucking doctor. "So what seems to be the issue today with you sir? Oh, need something to cheer you up an not care? I got something just in store!!!!!"

You cant say you know shit about something, unless you actually have done it and have taken personal study with it... YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!... OK </RANT>


I agree Tony. Nothing but the same old run around all the time. When I first went to my doc, I was explaining to him I have been fatigued as shit. He said, "So it looks like you have some sort of a depression issue. I can put you on something to help you with that."

They will put you on prozac all damn day but cringe about making my test levels higher than an 85 year old man. WTF?? That's why I now work with Chip. Plain and simple. I washed my hands from them. Im done.
 
LMAO! I oh i love doctors like that, I snapped at my psychiatrist because he wanted to put me back on the anti-depressants... why would you put me on something that you already know makes me into a more pissed off emotional wreck? Just so you can get another 400$ a visit, every single 30min. If I'm coming to you for help, you better listen to me, and listen to what I have to say. Not just act like you are and say your going to put me on some shit other than what "I Feel" is the issue.
 
LMAO! I oh i love doctors like that, I snapped at my psychiatrist because he wanted to put me back on the anti-depressants... why would you put me on something that you already know makes me into a more pissed off emotional wreck? Just so you can get another 400$ a visit, every single 30min. If I'm coming to you for help, you better listen to me, and listen to what I have to say. Not just act like you are and say your going to put me on some shit other than what "I Feel" is the issue.


Amen to that. It just goes back to comfort zone. Each doctor has a certain area they are comfortable in and that is usually how they treat. If they are unfamiliar with it (like HRT), then they just look for other areas to treat which in turn make them a lot more money. That is pretty much what it is all about sadly enough.
 
hello new to this site im a 56 yr old male just starting a program low testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) its been 30 days after first injection went back and blood work done ole doc said testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is still very low so now i get 1 cc every 2 weeks i was just wondering when to start lifting to make mucle gains and how it works like any info would help hial
 
hello new to this site im a 56 yr old male just starting a program low testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) its been 30 days after first injection went back and blood work done ole doc said testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is still very low so now i get 1 cc every 2 weeks i was just wondering when to start lifting to make mucle gains and how it works like any info would help hial

With ALL respect due to YOU, and ZERO DUE TO YOUR IDIOT of a "DOCTOR?"....

You really need to call me and deal with someone who KNOW what they are doing. Is this clown trying to KILL you by dosing you every TWO WEEKS!!!!?!?!?!?!?
Seriously? How do these idiots keep the license to practice medicine?

He may as well give you a nice thick rope.... Work with you on making sure you tie the perfect noose.... Put you in the trunk of his Mercedes and drive you to the nearest bridge.... Securely fasten one end of the rope to the bridge and securely tighten the noose around your throat.... then say, "BYE, BYE".... AND PUSH YOUR ASS OVER THE EDGE!

Where is the HCG and AI?? He's a doctor. This is Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) 101. Does this "Doc" not care about your BALLS? I don't even know you and I CARE ABOUT YOUR BALLS. I'm sure YOU care about your balls...
And furthermore, I DON'T WANT TO GO BRA SHOPPING WITH YOU WHEN YOU SPROUT AN EXTRA SET OF TITS due to this idiots gross negligence.

I'll get you straight.
CALL or EMAIL me.

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I bet I care about them a Helluva lot more than that heffer that raped you and got you preggo.... You'd better up the HCG and fill those fuckers up:Pump:, cause your drunk ass got yourself :Pokeowned: by an :elephant:!!!.... and she's gonna squeeze them fuckers dry!!:bawling:
:elephant::elephant::elephant::elephant:

:flipoffha

I second this motion. That thread talking about how you got raped by a fat chick had to be the thread of the year if not of all time. I'm sure she'll take plenty good care of you and your balls...now that she owns them.
 
hello new to this site im a 56 yr old male just starting a program low testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) its been 30 days after first injection went back and blood work done ole doc said testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is still very low so now i get 1 cc every 2 weeks i was just wondering when to start lifting to make mucle gains and how it works like any info would help hial

To be blunt, your doc knows nothing about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosing protocols. Ask him what the half life is of the injection he gave you. For most people it's about 5-8 days and at the most 14 days. That means you get a nice spike in testosterone levels for a few days, your natural production of test (if it's working at all) will get shut down because you now have a surplus of testosterone in your blood system, the effects in the injection then taper off over the next several days and by the end of two weeks (let alone a MONTH) you test levels are back to the toilet again. In fact, they are probably lower than when you first had blood work done because your body is no longer producing any testosterone on its own.

MOST people who run a successful testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol are dosing once a week and some (like me) are dosing 2x each week. Mind you, I'm not taking more test cyp -- I'm just dividing my weekly dose in half but injecting with more frequent intervals to keep my levels more stable.

Call Chip.
 
hello new to this site im a 56 yr old male just starting a program low testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) its been 30 days after first injection went back and blood work done ole doc said testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is still very low so now i get 1 cc every 2 weeks i was just wondering when to start lifting to make mucle gains and how it works like any info would help hial


Wow your doc is an idiot. It's alright. Most of them are. You already took a good first step by obviously getting online and researching it a tad. However, if you want to get your life back on track, do what I did, and give Chip a call. He will take care of you and you will be thankful you don't work with your cumquat doctor again!
 
hello new to this site im a 56 yr old male just starting a program low testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) its been 30 days after first injection went back and blood work done ole doc said testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is still very low so now i get 1 cc every 2 weeks i was just wondering when to start lifting to make mucle gains and how it works like any info would help hial

For comparison, I am on 200mg/week and inject twice a week. I can't imagine getting that dose and waiting four times as long between injections.
 
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