Tradition trumps innovation? Sus, dec and dbol

[notdorianyates]

Just starting my first proper full cycle. Am 5'11, 190 lbs and have been lifting for almost four years in a serious fashion. I have my splits down, have an enforced two days off and have a pretty good handle on nutrition. Even after tweaking, overhauling and researching the arse out of my workouts I have been plateauing for quite a while and finally decided to work through a full stack cycle.

I began with injectables of sus and dec 4 weeks ago (twice weekly at 500 and 400 respectively) and then last week began dianabol (capsule form from biomed) 10mg three times a day. I have not really tweaked the diet as I am already taking on upto 400 grams of protein a day (alongsiide flax, nuts, omega, etc!).

No gains detected yet, but this I am hoping is the telltale week -either, I am on the right tracks, my traditional stack is rubbish or my supply is 'well dodgy!!!'.

I am not anticipating miracles but a kick in the right direction and some degree of substantive improvement would be great!

 

[stmichael192012]

up for this

 

[notdorianyates]

Me too, if it works!

8 days into d-Bol and nothing tangible...

 

[Metalhead]

If you're not feeling the dbol, you may need to up the dosage. When I ran deca, week 6 was the magic week for me. Test kicked in about wek 5. Best of luck

 

[notdorianyates]

Nice one. I did start thinking that today, currently taking 3x10 mg a day, which as a first run I thought should be enough. Do you think upping to 40mg per day could be the right move? After taking them I do feel pressure (as though my blood pressure has risen) and in some instances have a headache. Hoping these side-effects are good signs!

Biggest concern is if these are dodgy/ sub-strength I move to a new supply of sus and dec from the same lab and supplier (bio-med) from Monday (my current sus and dec supplies run out then) and obviously I am a little worried about injectables if the rials are rubbish!

 

[smittiot]

You can get your blood tested to find out if your on rubbish or not. I can't speak for the d-bol, but you should start getting something from the test and deca in the next couple weeks.

 

[KingPen]

Nice one. I did start thinking that today, currently taking 3x10 mg a day, which as a first run I thought should be enough. Do you think upping to 40mg per day could be the right move? After taking them I do feel pressure (as though my blood pressure has risen) and in some instances have a headache. Hoping these side-effects are good signs!

Biggest concern is if these are dodgy/ sub-strength I move to a new supply of sus and dec from the same lab and supplier (bio-med) from Monday (my current sus and dec supplies run out then) and obviously I am a little worried about injectables if the rials are rubbish!

If your Dbol is legit, you absolutely should be able to notice 30mg. Bumping up to 40 wouldnt hurt anything. And headaches are NOT a good side, that could be an indicator of high BP which isnt good my friend.

 

[notdorianyates]

Cheers guys.

Yeah, I bumped up to 40 yesterday for the first time, wanting to get clarity on the dbol supply before I began the new injections from the same lab (my current sus/ dec runs out next week) and I felt extra pressure in my face (though no head ache).

Incidentally my new supply of sus and dec does seem strangely watery company to the oilly consistency of my current supply (from Organon and P&B). Doesn't inspire confidence in either!