Tren ace/test prop LETHARGIC AS FUCK!!!!

HazyKronic

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I am 5 10, 218 lbs atm.

15% bf bf was before cycle. when i started cycle i weighed 220, dropped to 208 in 3 to 4 weeks on cycle now back up at 218 in week 6. Look pretty damn lean too so i must of shedded fat then gained some muscle. lookin good for me, also i catch people mirin' Anyways as of right now I feel just tired, lethargic and when i hit the gym its not like how it was the first 4 to 5 weeks on cycle.

Diet, in the beginning of cylce all i ate was brown rice, grilled chicken grilled salmon and flounder, and steak and greens every friday. it was a high protein low carb diet, very hardcore i must say. to my standards. Im not a lean shredded guy more just beefy and big but proportional. felt great when eating so lean.

As i introduced tren, it seems I first had to force feed myself cus my appetite went down (smoked alot more herb to help), second I been eating now like steak and beans on a regular basis instead of chicken and cauliflower or fish and rice. Also eating lots of bullritoes with tren. I thought ok eat more carbs for better work outs... seems it is not helping-still losing fat tho...

my fourth cycle. Started test prop March 9th introduced tren ace april 4th

I started a cycle of test prop 150mg eod. for 3.5 weeks
wanted to use tren from day one with test prop but waited until i had recieved Hcg, caber, letro, and stane. 4 weeks in i recieved th rest of my order so started with tren ace. here is how it is going

week 1-3.5 test prop eod 150mg (with milk thistle and vitamins fish oil etc... and still eating all my vitamins today)

week 3.5-4 test prop 35mg ed tren ace 75mg ed (along with tren i started to take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2xa week 800ius total, letro 2x a week .5mg each dose so 1mg a week, caber 2x a week 500 mcg total of 1000mcg a week, and of course Stane eod 12.5 for third week then did 6mg eod since joints were aching very bad...

week 4-6 bumped up tren and prop a lil test prop 50mg ed tren ace 100mg ed (same Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 800ius a week, same letro 1mg a week, same caber 1000mg a week, now in week six i run stane at 6mg e3d cus my joints still dry and killin me)

Also april 16th thru april 21st i blasted letro .5mg a day, cus i thought i was having gyno... now I think it was all in my head

It is the 23rd now and i took off from the gym the 19th 20th (Always take off friday and saturday twice a month since that is when i get my kids divorced BULLSHIT anyway spend all my time with my kids when i have em) 21st of april that sunday still felt blah and shitty and i said fuck it i think my body needs rest. When i went back on the 22nd to hit chest, it didnt feel soar, but when i hit chest just a warm up 50lb dumbell chest press i felt my deep muscles or tendon tell me o hell no not today. So i went and did an ok back workout.

Now upon further inspection on my cycle history i have concluded me blasting letro for the 6 day period prolly still has my estrogen pretty damn low. the weird thing is normally on tren if i dont work out every day i GO CRAZY as Hell... Anxiety and shit like im stuck in abox. Now i just feel eh, like shit.

And with my stane should i try 2mg ed instead of 6mg e3d (killer on my joints)? since the half life of stane is 8 hrs and maybe the two days in between may be fluctuating estrogen.

i know get bloodwork and see. I just cant afford it... ( iknow spend uber money on cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) shit but cant spend a bill on bloodwork... I have no medical insurance)
ANyways just need some advice .02 cents from my bros on here what yall think??? yes i am from the south too lol.
 
going to hit the gym!!! Ill be back to see whats good.

Hope smoothie king and a no sugar red bull helps me out!!! Gym over college equals failing grades... fuck it!!!

damn senioritis!!!
 
Aromasin or Stane is suppose to be ran ED starting at 12.5mg. If you can't handle it, get arimidex. Blood tests are CHEAP ($50) through privatemdlabs, google it and google 15% off coupon. Order the female hormone panel, you get an email, you print the sheet, you go to a labcorp and get blood drawn and 24-48hrs you get your results. One thing I added this last blood test which I didn't on my TREN cycle and should have was a prolactin test but that increases the price making the total about $80 with 15% off.

Quick fucking skipping class and go to the gym after school work... making me feel like a Dad now..
 
e2 is prob crashed man.
Also tren at higher doses has that effect on some. Im fine up to 700/week but over that I feel like shit.
 
e2 is prob crashed man.
Also tren at higher doses has that effect on some. Im fine up to 700/week but over that I feel like shit.

At first I was wondering how you came to the conclusion of a crashed e2 but I missed the part about him doing letro too. Blood test is the only way to tell for sure, Privatemdlabs is the way to go.
 
blood test... yeah ima go get one done. cus i feel high blood pressure too.

i am getting a lil flare up of gyno on my right nipple. thats y i hit up letro. its still there tho think i should pick up some ramoflaxine. in th sticky of this forum its says its th best for gyno... any other items yall recommend for gettin rid of a lil gyno flare up
 
i dropped tren to 80mg ed. and started to take a ten day nolva treatment for gyno. feelin better already. also ordered raxo to help with gyno. letro is way strong for me. gonna take lower doses of letro for now on. and keeping an eye out for gyno. its not bad at all but i dont want itto get worse. may jump off th tren train if gyno doesnt subside...

thanx for everyones help
 
Not to make you more paranoid than you are but I read nolva + 19nor (tren) don't mix too well for some people. I researched it a bit 6+months ago. For some people it's fine and for others it caused gyno. I don't recall any hard facts or studies...so you might want to do some research. Or JimiThing can supply an opinion. He always has the good answers. :afro:
 
was going to say maybe something else your taking like maybe nolva also. doing tren/test now and appetite is best it's ever been. have done a few different types of test /cycles . test deca too. nothing compared to test/tren a. 8 weeks in on tren and 10 on test(sust) . everywhere i go, get comments on how big i look. :) also, have done 450 mg week test and 100eod tren a. and have not needed Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or caber ect.
 
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