Tren Ace+Test Prop+Masteron Simple Cycle

[ralphcooper]

Hello Folks,

My second cycle is been designed as by all of your support and feedback :
Tren Ace 100 mg twice a week (weeks 1-10)
Test Prop 200 mg twice a week (weeks 1-10)
Masteron 200 mg once a week (weeks 1 -10 )
Anavar 50 mg each day (weeks 5-10 )
Clenbutral 1 tabs(1st week) 2tabs(later) - (weeks 5-10)
HCG 500 iu twice a week (last 4 weeks)

PCT :
Letromine (alfa)
3 tabs each day (for 3 days after cycle )

Please all suggestions n feedback are welcome and i will be very thankful to everyone for suggesting me the changes or if its the best i can get result of....
I m 28 years old
Ht:5'7 1/2
Wt : 171 lbs
Goal : extreme cutting n muscularity with good lean muscle mass ....
My first cycle was 3 months back with sustagain n winstrol for 10weeks.

Thanks in advance!!

 

[DreDay187]

This was NOT the feedback and advice you got in your other thread. This is still too many compounds for a first cycle and tren is not a 2nd cycle compound. What was advised to you was to drop everything but the test prop and Anavar (var) . you added the rest or kept it on your own. Letromina is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) NOT a post cycle therapy (pct) compound. Get a real post cycle therapy (pct) and keep the letromina for on cycle use. And as mentioned in your previous thread, drop everything but the Anavar (var) and test prop that's plenty for your second run.

You're goals are antagonistic of each other: extreme cutting with good lean muscle mass. Pick one or the other. You're going to spin your wheels trying to achieve both.

 

[Millertime]

For a second cycle its ok. Your being very conservative with your doses and I can't comment on the Anavar because I have a penis and its a chick only supp imo. Your not gonna get anything crazy from it but I'd guess about 5lbs, a bit more strength and lean out a bit. I don't like clen so again can't comment on that because some really do and your hcg looks good. Your post cycle therapy (pct) won't work. Just follow the post cycle therapy (pct) sticky with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), clomid, and nolvadex.

 

[abusedyam]

WAAAAYYYYYYY to big for a second cycle

 

[Clamp]

Oh boy, where do we start. Anyone have a red pen I can borrow?

 

[DreDay187]

Oh boy, where do we start. Anyone have a red pen I can borrow?

Overnight UPS or courrier service?

 

[Clamp]

You should've just stuck with what Austinite told you. He (A few of you guys'll get this one ) gave you great advice.

You cannot run prop and ace with only two pins a week. I mean, you CAN, but considering the half life is only like 3-4 days you would be going up and down and you'd feel like shit. Also, anavar is way too low of a dose to be effective not to mention there're other better compounds to use for cutting (if you're a guy). Get a real PCT- nolva, clomid or torem.

Also check the half life on masteron. I don't know it, never run it, but it may require multiple weekly injections as well. Just mix everything together in the same syringe and inject it multiple times weekly to keep your blood levels stable.

 

[Clamp]

Overnight UPS or courrier service?

ROFL, I'll take overnight shipping thank you

 

[ozzyozzy21]

Hello Folks,

My second cycle is been designed as by all of your support and feedback :
Tren Ace 100 mg twice a week (weeks 1-10)
Test Prop 200 mg twice a week (weeks 1-10)
Masteron 200 mg once a week (weeks 1 -10 )
Anavar 50 mg each day (weeks 5-10 )
Clenbutral 1 tabs(1st week) 2tabs(later) - (weeks 5-10)
HCG 500 iu twice a week (last 4 weeks)

post cycle therapy (pct) :
Letromine (alfa)
3 tabs each day (for 3 days after cycle )

Please all suggestions n feedback are welcome and i will be very thankful to everyone for suggesting me the changes or if its the best i can get result of....
I m 28 years old
Ht:5'7 1/2
Wt : 171 lbs
Goal : extreme cutting n muscularity with good lean muscle mass ....
My first cycle was 3 months back with sustagain n winstrol for 10weeks.

Thanks in advance!!

Pinning tren A and test prop 2x a week is bad IMO. Blood levels won't be stable. Pct needs to at least add clomid I would forget the tren as a second cycle as well. Good luck.

 

[Clamp]

Pinning tren A and test prop 2x a week is bad IMO. Blood levels won't be stable. Pct needs to at least add clomid I would forget the tren as a second cycle as well. Good luck.

Yup, so what I said

Except for the tren part

 

[Millertime]

The thread was started and then he was gone! Happens a lot it seems!!!!

 

[Mad- scientist]

So what does he plan to do about prolactin build up lol..... This guy would be better running all enenthate esters. I know tren should be run as a short ester your first time. But I would personally rather run enenthate than pin ace 2 times a week and have crazy fluctuations in hormone levels. Honestly steroids are hard to understand and that is why I recommend people studying not just what steroids do but all of their side effects and what you have to take to combat them. Its hard to figure it all out but spending a year studying is better than spending the rest of your life combating low testosterone in your 20's. I honestly don't think people should use prolactin inducing compound tell like the third cycle if they don't really know what they are doing. Test and winstrol for a first cycle actually is a pretty good one. But I would keep it at 2 compound that aren't to hard to figure out. Especially when the guy doesn't even understand esters.

 

[Clamp]

There is no prolactin build up from tren. A study from the thread- http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/651985-true-about-tren.html#post3327073





Res Vet Sci. 1981 Jan;30(1):7-13.

Growth hormone, insulin, prolactin and total thyroxine in the plasma of sheep implanted with the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate alone or with oestradiol.

Donaldson IA, Hart IC, Heitzman RJ.

Abstract

The mode of action of the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate (19-norandrost-4,9,11-trien-3-one-17-acetate) was studied through the endogenous hormonal response of castrated male sheep to subcutaneous implantation of 140 mg of trenbolone acetate and 20 mg of oestradiol both separately and in combination. Radioimmunoassay of delta-4,9,11-trienic steroids and oestradiol-17 beta in plasma confirmed that simultaneous administration of trenbolone acetate with oestradiol led to a significantly greater persistence of oestradiol-17 beta residues in plasma (P less than 0.05) than with implantation of oestradiol alone. Oestradiol treatment increased concentrations of growth hormone and insulin (P less than 0.05; P less than 0.001 respectively) in plasma samples collected weekly. Trenbolone acetate by itself had no significant effect and the oestrogenic response was blocked on the simultaneous implantation of trenbolone acetate and oestradiol (despite higher plasma levels of oestradiol-17 beta with this treatment). Plasma total thyroxine was markedly depressed to 45 per cent of its basal level by trenbolone acetate, alone or with oestradiol (P less than 0.001) and depressed to 80 per cent of basal by oestradiol treatment alone (P less than 0.001). Plasma prolactin was unaltered by the above treatments.

PMID: 7017853 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Growth hormone, insulin, prolactin and total thy... [Res Vet Sci. 1981] - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Clamp]

So what does he plan to do about prolactin build up lol..... This guy would be better running all enenthate esters. I know tren should be run as a short ester your first time. But I would personally rather run enenthate than pin ace 2 times a week and have crazy fluctuations in hormone levels. Honestly steroids are hard to understand and that is why I recommend people studying not just what steroids do but all of their side effects and what you have to take to combat them. Its hard to figure it all out but spending a year studying is better than spending the rest of your life combating low testosterone in your 20's. I honestly don't think people should use prolactin inducing compound tell like the third cycle if they don't really know what they are doing. Test and winstrol for a first cycle actually is a pretty good one. But I would keep it at 2 compound that aren't to hard to figure out. Especially when the guy doesn't even understand esters.

I also would not recommend running winstrol for an extended period of time for the reasons stated above.

 

[jSalud]

I hope he is a troll lol. If not he is goin to do it anyways. Oh we'll you can't fix stupid

 

[ralphcooper]

The thread was started and then he was gone! Happens a lot it seems!!!!

First of thank you so much to all for the advice...n i apologize for replying late
However i was kept inquiring and searching alot an completely agree with most of you friends....and accordingly made it quite simple and changed it.Here are the changes i made n please do comment if still there is any change required....Most importantly i quit few compounds as you said....i have been really conscious n conservative on getting two sided results....which was absolutely wrong i realized....Heres my cycle :

Tren Ace 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
Test Prop 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
Clenb 2 tabs (2 weeks off - 2 weeks on) weeks 4-8
HCG 500 iu twice a week last 4 weeks

Honestly speaking for PCT m refering clomid but here m getting it too expensive ...is there any suggestion on that or i can go for letromine-alpha 3 tabs for 3-4 days after my cycle.????
Waiting for the advice!!!

 

[ralphcooper]

So what does he plan to do about prolactin build up lol..... This guy would be better running all enenthate esters. I know tren should be run as a short ester your first time. But I would personally rather run enenthate than pin ace 2 times a week and have crazy fluctuations in hormone levels. Honestly steroids are hard to understand and that is why I recommend people studying not just what steroids do but all of their side effects and what you have to take to combat them. Its hard to figure it all out but spending a year studying is better than spending the rest of your life combating low testosterone in your 20's. I honestly don't think people should use prolactin inducing compound tell like the third cycle if they don't really know what they are doing. Test and winstrol for a first cycle actually is a pretty good one. But I would keep it at 2 compound that aren't to hard to figure out. Especially when the guy doesn't even understand esters.

tren Ace 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
test Prop 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
Clenb 2 tabs (2 weeks off - 2 weeks on) weeks 4-8
HCG 500 iu twice a week last 4 weeks

Honestly speaking for PCT m refering clomid but here m getting it too expensive ...is there any suggestion on that or i can go for letromine-alpha 3 tabs for 3-4 days after my cycle.????
Waiting for the advice!!!

 

[ralphcooper]

I also would not recommend running winstrol for an extended period of time for the reasons stated above.

Is this simple n short cycle with less compound sounds good to you....will it help me the right way to achieve my goal of extreme muscularity...i also reduced the duration a bit so that i could get lil more time to gain some weight....
tren Ace 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
test Prop 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
Clenb 2 tabs (2 weeks off - 2 weeks on) weeks 4-8
HCG 500 iu twice a week last 4 weeks
And please suggest on PCT as tren i got is too expensive in itself that i could even think of buying clomid's bottle.....it is costing me too much...will letromine work for these compounds as basically i dropped Anavar n masteron as if tren n test according to you guys will give me those result ...and it was all silly to get in those compounds like masteron n anavar too...please reply !!!

 

[DreDay187]

There is no prolactin build up from tren. A study from the thread- http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/651985-true-about-tren.html#post3327073


Res Vet Sci. 1981 Jan;30(1):7-13.

Growth hormone, insulin, prolactin and total thyroxine in the plasma of sheep implanted with the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate alone or with oestradiol.

Donaldson IA, Hart IC, Heitzman RJ.

Abstract

The mode of action of the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate (19-norandrost-4,9,11-trien-3-one-17-acetate) was studied through the endogenous hormonal response of castrated male sheep to subcutaneous implantation of 140 mg of trenbolone acetate and 20 mg of oestradiol both separately and in combination. Radioimmunoassay of delta-4,9,11-trienic steroids and oestradiol-17 beta in plasma confirmed that simultaneous administration of trenbolone acetate with oestradiol led to a significantly greater persistence of oestradiol-17 beta residues in plasma (P less than 0.05) than with implantation of oestradiol alone. Oestradiol treatment increased concentrations of growth hormone and insulin (P less than 0.05; P less than 0.001 respectively) in plasma samples collected weekly. Trenbolone acetate by itself had no significant effect and the oestrogenic response was blocked on the simultaneous implantation of trenbolone acetate and oestradiol (despite higher plasma levels of oestradiol-17 beta with this treatment). Plasma total thyroxine was markedly depressed to 45 per cent of its basal level by trenbolone acetate, alone or with oestradiol (P less than 0.001) and depressed to 80 per cent of basal by oestradiol treatment alone (P less than 0.001). Plasma prolactin was unaltered by the above treatments.

PMID: 7017853 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Growth hormone, insulin, prolactin and total thy... [Res Vet Sci. 1981] - PubMed - NCBI

Also from that same thread you'll see the part where HeavyIron was asked about the endocrine system of sheep in relation to humans. A single, non-repeated study done on sheep not humans isn't enough to warrant an absolute statement but certainly does lead to more questions. We don't know how sheep hormones relate to human hormones so the best choice would be to have a dopamine agonist like caber/prami ON HAND and to get lab tests done to check actual levels.

 

[Metalhead]

Is this simple n short cycle with less compound sounds good to you....will it help me the right way to achieve my goal of extreme muscularity...i also reduced the duration a bit so that i could get lil more time to gain some weight....
tren Ace 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
test Prop 100 mg EOD weeks 1-8
Clenb 2 tabs (2 weeks off - 2 weeks on) weeks 4-8
HCG 500 iu twice a week last 4 weeks
And please suggest on PCT as tren i got is too expensive in itself that i could even think of buying clomid's bottle.....it is costing me too much...will letromine work for these compounds as basically i dropped Anavar n masteron as if tren n test according to you guys will give me those result ...and it was all silly to get in those compounds like masteron n anavar too...please reply !!!

As stated above, follow the pct sticky. Cycle looks better. Letro will work as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but you'll need caber or prami on hand in case prolactin becomes a problem. Good luck