Tren Ace + Test Prop or Sust

7orture

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I am planning on a cycle in time but I want to prepare everything first.

No this isn't my first cycle. Before I decide on what exactly I want to run, I just want to see people's opinions on either Sustanon (sust) or Prop with TrenA. After some opinions then I will crunch some numbers and get some more help. I have only used Sustanon (sust) and had great results but I'm wondering if prop would be more suitable hence why I am asking.
 
Tren ace and test prop is an amazing combo. Ester lengths are similar.
If you plan on doing tren ace, you most likely dont want the water retention from the sustanon. Test prop will give you a leaner look imo.
 
I've heard tren ace really cuts fat but is there much size to gain?

I responded quite well to sust, only a bit of retention but it seems prop is the better choice here.
 
prop and ace only

what are your stats, cycle experience?


you dont need sustanon. you can never go wrong with prop and ace. if you can add masteron and you will have one of the best cycles possible
 
I'm 22 years old, almost 23 (by time I start the cycle I will be) and have been weight lifting since I was 18.
I am 6'2, 194 and 13-14% body fat. I gained a bit of fat over the last few months but I have been a keto style diet and cycle my carbs and have got my weight back under control and will continue this style of diet for the next several months as I have had good results (loss of body fat and making lean gains).

My first cycle was 10 weeks of test Sustanon (sust) 250 only and I gained about 15lbs and kept about 6-8 of it.

My second cycle in the beginning of 2012, I ran 10 weeks of Sustanon (sust) 250 and mast. And I as able to a gain a lean 8 or so and kept almost all of it.

I ran post cycle therapy (pct) for both cycles of nolvadex and adex

In my next cycle after some more hardcore dieting and training, I would like to bring my BF below 10% while still making leans gains and maintaining or even gaining strength.

I haven't crunched any numbers for my next cycle as I want to see everyone's opinion on the prop/tren ace combo and if you think I am suited for it.

Love to hear feedback. Thanks
 
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