tren and dbol cycle?

[Trenton]

Have anybody done a tren and dbol cycle?
or could anybody say whats great/bad with this stack?

 

[Vegas]

With no testosterone? No thanks. Any nandrolone without testosterone is asking for trouble.

 

[Trenton]

With no testosterone? No thanks. Any nandrolone without testosterone is asking for trouble.

Why does Realgains say like this
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Personally I think d-bol/tren cannot be beat. There is only one roid that is better than testosterone, in the short run, IMHO and that is d-bol...too bad it's 17aa.
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Im thinking about a shorter cycle around 5-6weeks?

 

[Stone]

Because that's his personal preference. Most would not agree, so untill you've tried the basics - then tried each one of these seperatly, I wouldn't go following what someone else likes just because you think it might work well for you too.

Liver toxicity for one would be a problem.

 

[Trenton]

Because that's his personal preference. Most would not agree, so untill you've tried the basics - then tried each one of these seperatly, I wouldn't go following what someone else likes just because you think it might work well for you too.

Liver toxicity for one would be a problem.

I have milkthistle for dbol.
Tren is not livertoxic, its just a myth.
If you dont agree show me refs.

 

[daan69]

I have milkthistle for dbol.
Tren is not livertoxic, its just a myth.
If you dont agree show me refs.

my bloodwork showed it that it was toxic.

test tren cycle for 8 weeks, then my liver values are sky high? i dont think it was the test.

 

[Trenton]

my bloodwork showed it that it was toxic.

test tren cycle for 8 weeks, then my liver values are sky high? i dont think it was the test.

Because you have got shitty liver values it dosent mean the everyone gets it, post REAL reports or something like that and not own experiences ok bh`..

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Because you have got shitty liver values it dosent mean the everyone gets it, post REAL reports or something like that and not own experiences ok bh`..

Hahaha........you Swede's kill me. Post REAL reports.....LMFAO. Is that all you can ever come up with...OMG !!

How much real scientific studies do you think are actually out there on human use of Tren ??

When someone posts REAL reports that don't siut your need, you probably say to post real personal experiences.

 

[gareth1978]

I have done two tren/dbol cycles previously and had great results from both. Side effects were night sweats, a little insomnia, and quite a bit of water retention. Didn't suffer any sexual performance problems, quite the opposite actually. Didn't have liver values checked, or anything like that, so can't comment in that regard.

 

[lionhead]

Hahaha........you Swede's kill me. Post REAL reports.....LMFAO. Is that all you can ever come up with...OMG !!

How much real scientific studies do you think are actually out there on human use of Tren ??

When someone posts REAL reports that don't siut your need, you probably say to post real personal experiences.

Hey now.. Dont generalize me with him.

 

[simpllyhuge]

has any one else noticed elivated liver values with tren?

 

[simpllyhuge]

what the lowest dose of tren for results, 75 eod or can u do half that?

 

[Vegas]

has any one else noticed elivated liver values with tren?

Not significantly, but yes.

what the lowest dose of tren for results, 75 eod or can u do half that?

I've known several guys who use 50mgs EOD with good results. Honestly, most guys tend to start out with more then they truly need.

 

[Thoms]

I've done test/tren/dbol. Pretty solid cycle, although not my favorite.

 

[drk_diggler]

Hahaha........you Swede's kill me. Post REAL reports.....LMFAO. Is that all you can ever come up with...OMG !!

How much real scientific studies do you think are actually out there on human use of Tren ??

When someone posts REAL reports that don't siut your need, you probably say to post real personal experiences.

exactly....

 

[Thoms]

I've known several guys who use 50mgs EOD with good results.

I've done 75EOD with poor results. But that was mostly diet.