And even if you were to run Tren EVER, you would most certainly want to run Tren ACETATE FIRST. if you run the Enth and you have issues with it, it will build up in your system and take a MUCH longer time for the sides to dissipate. My feelings on Tren are that its the strongest steroid out there. At some point it is most certainly worth using. Its kind of like Tylenol vs Extra Strength Tylenol. Why the fuck would I use the regular stuff when I could use the Extra Strength? The only thing about tren on a first cycle is, the odds of you having your diet and exercise routine down to a science for being on gear is probably SLIM to NONE. so in turn you are wasting time and money, as well as putting harsh effects on your body, acne, hair loss, sleep loss, appetite loss, tren is a tough drug and you have to know what you are doing. You want to run a TEST ONLY first cycle to see how your body reacts to just the test. You learn along the way what your body can handle, how much food you need to take in to make gains, how to exercise properly on gear to maximize gains. Each cycle you add an additional compound and see how your body reacts to it. Not all of us can use every steroid under the sun with great results and no sides. Personally I cant use DBol or Anadrol because of the effects they have on my BP and I most always get gyno flares from those two in particular. So, start with test only, and LEARN. Read everything you can about these compounds before you use them.