Tren, I want the truth..

[Swan]

This is purely scientific in nature,

I only want facts, no emotions, none of that " my best friends cousins former acquaintance had this happen" bullshit... I know
Perception plays a part do
To how people can generally react differently as far as sides go with aas, but I guess there can be alot of underline grey areas like the persons over all health pre aas, or family history, "heart disease runs in the family sort of thing".

But anyway, what im seeing on every thread about tren is for everyone negative comment there's a postive... 50% say "if your liver had shoes it would kick you in the balls", the other half says "no dude it's a myth and the only thing that would ever happen as far as organs are concerned is the amount of alcohol in the solution injected could possibly effect kidney levels".

Can someone make irrefutable arguments about this drug?

1) can this trenbolone actually kill you first cycle (weird rumor I heard)

2) is tren really all that toxic to the liver or kidneys? I know values will be effected because of the actual compound, but fatally?

3) how does tren play a role in creating this so called "rage" people
Talk of, I can understand some depression post cycle, but rage? How does this chemical effect anger?

4) water retention or no water retention
Some say the prolactin or progestrone can cause water weight with tren.. Myth or real?

5) rumor has it tren was infact created for human use and later discontinued, unlike other compounds I think primo and another one?

6) is the rapid heart beat as a side effect brought on by anxiety or vice versa? And why does this happen

7) is tren e all that much safer than tren ace, I know the short ester ace is easily dissmissable if sides are present but is that the only positive? One short or long ester really can make or break a cycle as far as sides and gains?



I know some of you will say go read more... I have.. I have some anabolics 09 I'm a member of a few different boards, been researching for more than a year now.. But no one ever seems to flat out say anything real, I feel tren is the "walking on eggshells" compound, some dudes even on here say tren is like all the other aas, if u abuse you will pay, I have seen some guys ok a first timer for tren I've seen just as many say they have to be more experiences first,

Who's right who's wrong...

 

[darkside06]

Great post!

Here is my take on Tren as I am currently in my 3rd cycle of running Tren right now.

1) Anything can kill you, it all depends on how your body reacts to different drugs. Everybody handles things differently and will handle Tren differently. I Myself, do not get any side effects from Tren other than some weird dreams at times and I've gotten Tren cough maybe 3 or 4 times ever and it was only when I knicked a veign. No Night sweats or anything so to me, the drug doesn't seem that bad as far as side effects and the results are incredible.

Everyone will react differently to Tren and this is the biggest reason why it is not recomended for a first cycle. Just like Test causes a different reaction in people. If you can't handle test right off the bat then you definately don't wanna run Tren with it for your first time.

From my own personal experience, I don't get prolactin sides. no loss of libido, but it does take me a little longer to get the deed done.

I don't get any water retention on Tren, but then again i've only Run ace and never Enth. I think when people are experiencing bloat with Tren it's because theyre running their Test too high.

As far as rage, i think it comes because of the imense strength gains you get on Tren....kinda make you feel like superman, but it could be different with everyone. I think naturaly aggressive people will always be aggressive and roids has nothing to do with it.

As I said, I've only ever run Tren Ace and the reson being that if I experienced harsh sides from it i can stop and it will be out of my system quickly, and I also wanted it to hit me faster so I went with the fast esther. I don't really think Tren E would be that much different from ace other than time of release.

There is so many opinions out there about Tren....some people like to run their Test higher, others like to run Tren higher than test. I've seen results both ways but i've seen much better results running Tren high and test low.

Hopefuly Oak will chime in, he's a very knowledgeable person on Tren.

 

[Infantry87]

Great post!

Here is my take on Tren as I am currently in my 3rd cycle of running Tren right now.

1) Anything can kill you, it all depends on how your body reacts to different drugs. Everybody handles things differently and will handle Tren differently. I Myself, do not get any side effects from Tren other than some weird dreams at times and I've gotten Tren cough maybe 3 or 4 times ever and it was only when I knicked a veign. No Night sweats or anything so to me, the drug doesn't seem that bad as far as side effects and the results are incredible.

Everyone will react differently to Tren and this is the biggest reason why it is not recomended for a first cycle. Just like Test causes a different reaction in people. If you can't handle test right off the bat then you definately don't wanna run Tren with it for your first time.

From my own personal experience, I don't get prolactin sides. no loss of libido, but it does take me a little longer to get the deed done.

I don't get any water retention on Tren, but then again i've only Run ace and never Enth. I think when people are experiencing bloat with Tren it's because theyre running their Test too high.

As far as rage, i think it comes because of the imense strength gains you get on Tren....kinda make you feel like superman, but it could be different with everyone. I think naturaly aggressive people will always be aggressive and roids has nothing to do with it.

As I said, I've only ever run Tren Ace and the reson being that if I experienced harsh sides from it i can stop and it will be out of my system quickly, and I also wanted it to hit me faster so I went with the fast esther. I don't really think Tren E would be that much different from ace other than time of release.

There is so many opinions out there about Tren....some people like to run their Test higher, others like to run Tren higher than test. I've seen results both ways but i've seen much better results running Tren high and test low.

Hopefuly Oak will chime in, he's a very knowledgeable person on Tren.

Good shit bro. I'm opposite of dark. I"ve never ran the ace but ran the enth ester and IMO Your first tren cycle you should go with the shorter ester like ace. I'm not gonna lie, Tren is a hell of a drug bro. Shit was great but it killed my appetite around wk 4-7 give or take a few days and the dreams were unreal. But towards the end it put me in a very dark place man. Depression was a bitch but I've had numerous amounts of problems with this since so Im not blaming it on the compound at all. Gains were solid with it but when it comes to Tren I'll stick with the short version from now on

 

[Losway]

If you read it and heard it, next thing to do is doing it...cant get more scientific than that

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

i'm not sure than tren is good to use in cycle based only with the cycle story, age weigh, heigh...

blame on source which sell it, without knowing anything on their customers.

if only they were on boards to chceck.

i will be amazed, if a source will turn a mail with : " hum sorry but viewing your states, at steroidology, we think than you're not ready for trenbolone"

a lot of people ran it, and that's what is the most sad in the trenbolone story.

you have to be geneticly already a solid guy in your whole life, and more bigger and stronger when you started bodybuilding, and after some years of solid gains, and some raisonnable cycle, want to try trenbolone. it mean than the natural edge is reached. then you plan trenbolone to get more. ( at your own risk)

i'm an ancient trenman... it just mean than tren were in all my cycles since 1994.-2011

 

[Bullishness]

I ran my FIRST cycle of test Prop and Tren Ace for 16 weeks and ran them at 500mg Test and 600mg tren stacked eod. I put on 25 lbs of solid muscle, I had some night sweats but no horrible sides at all. I think the majority of the myths surrounding Tren is from people that has never tried it before. Camp fire story tellers........Just try it.

 

[Swan]

I wIsh someone could post a tren only
Lab result, with prior medical history, so we all know it's not another compound plus tren, or maybe and underlining condition, I appreciate the feed back, but where's the grit, I've seen alot from anthony Roberts, det oak, and a couple others I want a scientific end all tren battle so no one walks away like... So is this shit worth it?

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

I wIsh someone could post a tren only
Lab result, with prior medical history, so we all know it's not another compound plus tren, or maybe and underlining condition, I appreciate the feed back, but where's the grit, I've seen alot from anthony Roberts, det oak, and a couple others I want a scientific end all tren battle so no one walks away like... So is this shit worth it?

the HG trenbolone doesn't exist anymore since 1997. ther's no clinical study since that date. and i doubt seriously than the comment about the cycle with the parabolan ( the only trenbolone which has been prescribed) could be on internet.

and why would a clinic makes a study about UGL tren only cycle effect on the human body? who would to be a volunteer for this study, and thus, denounced as fraudulent user of AAS from black market?

it seems impossible to get the infos you are asking for.

 

[slair]

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YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!





















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[Kane_Red_Machine]

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