Tren/Winni/Clen/T3

[JustDoIt]

Hi guys, long time reader first time poster. I'm 22 17% bf STILL, 5'9, 207.My first cycle was prop alone for 10 weeks which really didn't impress me, more or less because I didn't understand the seriousness of dieting, than I 3 months later I ran more prop with UG Dbol, LOVED the combo, and had a diet I guess you could say professionally written, dieting IS key. Anyhow this will be my first cycle to cut, I havent touched gear in 3 months Tuesday including and SERMS or post cycle therapy (pct). My exact BF I cant be positive but from my last reading I'm nearly 17 and I hear anything over 16 is dangerous to run clen but I'm gonna give it a shot. So I know to dose ...

Winni - 50mg ED
Clen - 20mcg first than add 20 mcg till you
find where your comfortable.
T3 - Same as clen

But the Tren I'm between a rock and a hard place, injecting bothers me NONE, I just don't know how often or how much to shoot being I'll be on three other compounds.

I was also thinking about adding Adex, opinions pleaseee, and please someone serious this Tren question is very important to me. Thanks in adavance guys.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

hum.. no testo in this cycle?

 

[JustDoIt]

My guy offered me test enth said itd be weeks before and prop came around, but he said the tren would be way better for cutting up and from what I've read besides liek the weirdo side effects everyone loves Tren for bulking or cutting.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

My guy offered me test enth said itd be weeks before and prop came around, but he said the tren would be way better for cutting up and from what I've read besides liek the weirdo side effects everyone loves Tren for bulking or cutting.

So it's your second cycle?

 

[JustDoIt]

Third my friend, I ran prop twice once with dbol.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

i figure your tren is acetate, right?

howmush mg per ml?

 

[JustDoIt]

Yes, and 100mg/ml.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

test-enth 500 mg/week
tren-a 100mg E3D

10 weeks both.

clen and t3 have to be ran in a pyramidal cycle. and aternativly.

so only one of them each cycle oral.

personaly i would not advice oral in this cycle.

and certainly not winny.

 

[edogger]

I was also thinking about adding Adex, opinions pleaseee, and please someone serious this Tren question is very important to me. Thanks in adavance guys.

Why would you add adex? it has no place in this cycle. If you run this cycle without test youll be out of estrogen in no time without any help.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

AI : exemestane or letro.

aids on tren : cabaser, and proviron HCG.

better to read some post on each compounds i told you, before to run anything.

 

[JustDoIt]

Tren aromatizes does it not? So basically your saying def drop the Winstrol (winny) and either the T3 or the clen? I've read numerous posts that Tren should never be ran without Winstrol (winny) its the best for preventing tren iduced gyno.

 

[edogger]

AI : exemestane or letro.

aids on tren : cabaser, and proviron HCG.

better to read some post on each compounds i told you, before to run anything.

Hcg is a must with tren if you ask me. Cabaser or prami i would use if there was no t3 or Winstrol (winny) involved but those compounds typically control prolactin enough that you dont need anything extra for that.

 

[edogger]

Tren aromatizes does it not? So basically your saying def drop the Winstrol (winny) and either the T3 or the clen? I've read numerous posts that Tren should never be ran without Winstrol (winny) its the best for preventing tren iduced gyno.

No tren does not aromatize. Youre confusing estrogen with prolactin or progesterone. Different hormone. Winstrol (winny) and a low dose of t3 do a good job of controlling prolactin when used with tren.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

Tren aromatizes does it not? So basically your saying def drop the Winstrol (winny) and either the T3 or the clen? I've read numerous posts that Tren should never be ran without Winstrol (winny) its the best for preventing tren iduced gyno.

tren+winny mean quickly weak tendons.

i think you are in this sport for a long time.

so take a look closer to the compounds you are closer to use.

better to prevent some side effect instead to suppose the results, and to base your cycle on comment on some boards.

 

[JustDoIt]

better to prevent some side effect instead to suppose the results, and to base your cycle on comment on some boards.

I don't understand that, but just let me say I really do appreciate you guys helping me out here. So with final advice, how shall I dose?

And prov is a def?

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

proviron 30mg/weeks

cabaser 0.25mg every 4 days.

hcg 500I.U every 4 days to.

if you need it : exemestane or letro 1 tabs day till the sign of bloat go out, or gyno effect desapear completly ( but i think you will not need it.

pct : clomid 14 days after last injection of testo 50 mg/ed for 21 days.

i was saying than some AAS can avoid side-effects of some others. like Winstrol (winny) to tren, but it will bring some others sides, always worst to worst... so don't let payed to mush attention of what unexperienced guys told in other boards.

 

[JustDoIt]

Ok so cabaser for Prolactin issues, Prov for estro, I don't see a point to Hcg, and I'm still interested with opinion on the cycle I had posted.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

Ok so cabaser for Prolactin issues, Prov for estro, I don't see a point to Hcg, and I'm still interested with opinion on the cycle I had posted.

HCG because of the effect on HPTA espcialy on FSH and LH secretion.

and what i see is nothing a cycle.

because i need to see the duration.

how mush weeks you plan for each compounds with the dosage.

 

[DADAWG]

run at least a couple of hundred mgs of test a week with the tren and winnie.

 

[JustDoIt]

5 weeks, maybe 6. I don't like staying on long, I lost alot after my second cycle do to dbol. I guess I need to do more research on hcg before starting this cycle.

And most people tell me its due to my age that test makes me aggressive, I think Im a very reasonable guy, but test makes me buggy and real clingy to close friends and girls.