Trenazone/Helladrol Cycle

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bklaves

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34 years, 5'11, 175lb, 14%bf

Good day gentlemen and ladies, thank you for your time. Prior cycles include superdrol(way too early and probably bunk or underdosed), Finaflex Andro(+5lb) and Helladrol(+5-10lb). Have been a bit of a gym rat for the last 3 years, but only recently learned how to eat effectively. This will be a clean bulk. Training, diet and support supps are in order. Cycle Assist throughout, Multi, Fish Oil.

Here is the current layout:

Trenazone: 1.5/2/2/2/2/2
Helladrol: 75/75/75/100/100/100
Dermacrine: 0/3/3/3/3/3
Inhibit-P: ?
Erase: ?
Creatine

Torem: 90/60/30/30
Bulbine:1/1/1/1/1/1
Daa: 3/3/3/3/3/3
Erase: 1/2/3/3/2/1
Inhibit-P: ?
Creatine
Slin Sane

A few questions:

1. Erase on cycle?

2. Inhibit-P on cycle? Post cycle?

3. Aromaisin on hand?

4. Bulbine overkill?

Any other advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks again for your time.
 
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instead of taking ERASE, why not just run a real Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like that Aromasin? or A-dex?

I dont think you should take creatine. you don't need it. you are taking steroids man - creatine aint gonna do shit, its not even in the same ballpark, plus you are gonna have to drink WAY WAY more water to prevent dehydration.
 
shaggz said:
I dont think you should take creatine. you don't need it. you are taking steroids man - creatine aint gonna do shit, its not even in the same ballpark, plus you are gonna have to drink WAY WAY more water to prevent dehydration.
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Failed at linking, but a good read about creatine and why it is important on cycle

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/584816-creatine-steroids-wasting-your-money-wasting-your-steroids-find-out-now.html
 
O said:
Failed at linking, but a good read about creatine and why it is important on cycle

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/584816-creatine-steroids-wasting-your-money-wasting-your-steroids-find-out-now.html
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a good read. maybe ill add creatine to my next cycle, and make a judgement from personal experience. thanks
 
Creatine while on orals is good. I'd also consider starting the trenazone later so your on cycle for s longer period of time.

Pct looks good. Hella will be lots of fun. Trenazone is iffy but with your doses it will work pretty well.

If u can get a bottle of test it would really help you out bit but that's another story
 
bklaves said:
34 years, 5'11, 175lb, 14%bf

Good day gentlemen and ladies, thank you for your time. Prior cycles include superdrol(way too early and probably bunk or underdosed), Finaflex Andro(+5lb) and Helladrol(+5-10lb). Have been a bit of a gym rat for the last 3 years, but only recently learned how to eat effectively. This will be a clean bulk. Training, diet and support supps are in order. Cycle Assist throughout, Multi, Fish Oil.

Here is the current layout:

Trenazone: 1.5/2/2/2/2/2
Helladrol: 75/75/75/100/100/100
Dermacrine: 0/3/3/3/3/3
Inhibit-P: ?
Erase: ?
Creatine

Torem: 90/60/30/30
Bulbine:1/1/1/1/1/1
Daa: 3/3/3/3/3/3
Erase: 1/2/3/3/2/1
Inhibit-P: ?
Creatine
Slin Sane

A few questions:

1. Erase on cycle? I would save the erase for PCT

2. Inhibit-P on cycle? Post cycle? save the inhibit-p for post, or don't use it at all.

3. Aromaisin on hand? don't think you'll need it

4. Bulbine overkill? bulbine is fine in PCT

Any other advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks again for your time.
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I think it looks great and I agree you could probably stagger the trenazone with the hdrol if you wanted. you don't have to, but hdrol take a while to kick in (2-3 weeks). You could start the trenazone in week 2 and that way you're on for 8 weeks instead of 6. Gives you a little bit longer to hold on to gains. But I would't ever stretch an oral cycle longer than 8 weeks.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
I think it looks great and I agree you could probably stagger the trenazone with the hdrol if you wanted. you don't have to, but hdrol take a while to kick in (2-3 weeks). You could start the trenazone in week 2 and that way you're on for 8 weeks instead of 6. Gives you a little bit longer to hold on to gains. But I would't ever stretch an oral cycle longer than 8 weeks.
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Hella:75/100/100/100/100/100/100/100
Trenazone: 1.5/2/2/2/2/2/2/2

In week 2, going well. Would you change SERM dose or length with this 8 week cycle? Thanks in advance.
 
bydayQuak said:
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I don't swim...




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I do not swim.
 
gymrat827 said:
Creatine while on orals is good. I'd also consider starting the trenazone later so your on cycle for s longer period of time.

Pct looks good. Hella will be lots of fun. Trenazone is iffy but with your doses it will work pretty well.

If u can get a bottle of test it would really help you out bit but that's another story
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Hella:75/100/100/100/100/100/100/100
Trenazone: 1.5/2/2/2/2/2/2/2

In week 2, going well. Would you change SERM dose or length with this 8 week cycle? Thanks in advance.
 
bklaves said:
Hella:75/100/100/100/100/100/100/100
Trenazone: 1.5/2/2/2/2/2/2/2

In week 2, going well. Would you change SERM dose or length with this 8 week cycle? Thanks in advance.
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PCT should be a minimum of 4 weeks - however you can make it 6-8 weeks if you'd like - certainly not going to hurt anything - totally your call chief
 
gymrat827 said:
yea, no one will argue that. one thing EVERYONE should agree on
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I will agree that it's not long enough :D

I usually run post cycle therapy (pct) for as long as my cycle was - but that's just me and I like to sufficiently recover and hold on to gains

cycle is only good as your post cycle therapy (pct)!
 
Interesting! Do you run ancillaries like aegis/cycle support during the pct as well? Or just the test boosters, serm, Aromatase inhibitor (AI), etc.?

TheDarkHalf said:
I will agree that it's not long enough :D

I usually run PCT for as long as my cycle was - but that's just me and I like to sufficiently recover and hold on to gains

cycle is only good as your PCT!
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gymrat827 said:
So u always do 6wk pct"s??
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Usually - clomid is always my preferred SERM of choice and I'll run it for at least 6 weeks

BigBlackguy said:
Interesting! Do you run ancillaries like aegis/cycle support during the pct as well? Or just the test boosters, serm, Aromatase inhibitor (AI), etc.?
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Yes sir! I've even played with the idea of running PCT items during my cycle instead of just waiting until PCT to get started.....granted that would be expensive.
 
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