TRT at 19y/o with 478ng/dl. Questions...

i would say go for it, but first rule out any huge issue such as pit. tumor or that varicole vein thing that can occur to ur testes.

when u first pin tho, u should at least be aware that it may be for life. for example, i already pinned my first 200 mg thing morning , and intend to stay on for life (hell, if IMT proves to be the best out there, which thus far they have been much more competent than anyone else, i might as well stick with them until I'm in the ground lol).
 
i would say go for it, but first rule out any huge issue such as pit. tumor or that varicole vein thing that can occur to ur testes.

when u first pin tho, u should at least be aware that it may be for life. for example, i already pinned my first 200 mg thing morning , and intend to stay on for life (hell, if IMT proves to be the best out there, which thus far they have been much more competent than anyone else, i might as well stick with them until I'm in the ground lol).

If im going to be on it for the rest of my life in a decade or so anyways, might as well start now. I can only imagine things going downhill from 478ng/dl. Why live life with half the testosterone levels of your average 19 year old?
 
That nobody would suggest trt for a 19yo. But to clarify, I did say self administered trt.


ah, yeah it makes sense. it may be an unpopular opinion, but i would argue that it is even more crucial for someone young to get on if they deem it necessary.

obv. many young ppl going to the gym have a shit diet and training regimen and are yelled at by older folks to fix those, but if someone who is young truly has low t or has issues with hormones that lead them to ed.. well, for fucks sake, i wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy.. to waste their youth struggling to get their dick hard and having breasts as a male lmao.

like i said tho, OP should at least be well informed prior to pinning, and should be aware that he might be on for life, and decide if that is ok, mentally speaking, with him.
 
If im going to be on it for the rest of my life in a decade or so anyways, might as well start now. I can only imagine things going downhill from 478ng/dl. Why live life with half the testosterone levels of your average 19 year old?


i agree. but like i said, just be aware of the risks, consequences etc. i simply say this because a lot of people our age decide to pin one way or another, and dont bother learning enough to do it right.

if u are going self admin. route, u might as well look into blasting and crusing and consider anavar as well (assuming bodybuilding is your goal here... if your goal is to simply have a functioning dick, disregard this part lol). anavar is hair safe from what i know. u would want to stay away from tren. 5 times as androgenic as test and cannot be blocked by DUT or fin... it will most likely kill ur hair very quickly assuming u have hair loss issues, which as u stated, u do.
 
I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to be honest. Both options have their positives and negatives, I just have to weigh them and accept the risks.
 
i agree. but like i said, just be aware of the risks, consequences etc. i simply say this because a lot of people our age decide to pin one way or another, and dont bother learning enough to do it right.

if u are going self admin. route, u might as well look into blasting and crusing and consider anavar as well (assuming bodybuilding is your goal here... if your goal is to simply have a functioning dick, disregard this part lol). anavar is hair safe from what i know. u would want to stay away from tren. 5 times as androgenic as test and cannot be blocked by DUT or fin... it will most likely kill ur hair very quickly assuming u have hair loss issues, which as u stated, u do.

Yup i've tried anavar before. Really good product. I also like ostarine, and peptides like ghrp 6 and cjc no dac is amazing too
 
btw, i am not well versed on test's relationship with accutane, so cant help u there. but i can tell u that in some cases, acc. can worsen or even induce hair loss (particularly diffuse thinning), so with ur already existant issues, i hope u have legit severe cystic acne, and ur derma wasn't some imbecile that told u to take acc. for mild acne that could be treated with basic skin care or retin a.
 
btw, i am not well versed on test's relationship with accutane, so cant help u there. but i can tell u that in some cases, acc. can worsen or even induce hair loss (particularly diffuse thinning), so with ur already existant issues, i hope u have legit severe cystic acne, and ur derma wasn't some imbecile that told u to take acc. for mild acne that could be treated with basic skin care or retin a.

Had really bad nodular cystic acne, the worst kind you can possibly get. So unfortunately I need it. Hopefully the rogaine and propecia prevent any more loss
 
What did you take along with the anavar? How long ago, dose, duration?

Only took it for about a month at about 50mg a day but even then the gains were pretty incredible. I took it about 5 months ago followed by nolvadex and clomid right after
 
i would recommend to drop the rogaine

it forces the collagen to go to the scalp, and over time can accelerate aging of ur face.


things that i didnt mention in my thread that u might want to be privy to , as they could benefit u seeing as how we are in comparable situation :

- i will be using nizoral twice each week
- i will be taking oral castor oil
- i will attempt to start the ghetto protocol of the swiss temples routine... look up "swiss temples" and read the necessary items as well as how to use them. once hair loss is halted / stabilized via DUT or FIN, and dandruff taken care of via nizoral, regrowth can be induced using the swiss temples routine.

u can argue that rogaine can cause regrowth too.. yes, but not nearly to the same extent, and then there is the issue of it fucking ur skin up.
 
Only took it for about a month at about 50mg a day but even then the gains were pretty incredible. I took it about 5 months ago followed by nolvadex and clomid right after

So anavar by itself followed by a pct protocol?
 
i would recommend to drop the rogaine

it forces the collagen to go to the scalp, and over time can accelerate aging of ur face.


things that i didnt mention in my thread that u might want to be privy to , as they could benefit u seeing as how we are in comparable situation :

- i will be using nizoral twice each week
- i will be taking oral castor oil
- i will attempt to start the ghetto protocol of the swiss temples routine... look up "swiss temples" and read the necessary items as well as how to use them. once hair loss is halted / stabilized via DUT or FIN, and dandruff taken care of via nizoral, regrowth can be induced using the swiss temples routine.

u can argue that rogaine can cause regrowth too.. yes, but not nearly to the same extent, and then there is the issue of it fucking ur skin up.

Yeah im pretty worried about that side effect. I might take it for a bit and switch over to ru588... or whatever its called lol. Apparently that works even better than fin and rogaine.
 
Yeah im pretty worried about that side effect. I might take it for a bit and switch over to ru588... or whatever its called lol. Apparently that works even better than fin and rogaine.

RU as in that topical DHT blocker?

meh, the issue with topicals is they have extremely limited efficacy unless u keep it on ur scalp all fucking day long, lmao.
 
Holy shit the swiss temples thing looks very promising :)



it is, but

1.) make sure u are on fin or dut first , as if u try regrowth without stabilizing hair loss first, its pretty retarded... altho u said ur already on fin, so thats good. (btw, take 0.5 mg daily rather than 1 mg ed at first to see if u need to up the dose or not).

2.) it is a pain in the ass.. so much shit to take, derma needling the scalp to cause wounding, even using a fucking light on ur head... lol. but it is worth it IMO. (thats another thing u can look into for ur skin... derma needling [ NOT rolling.. only needling] combined with a vit. c serum).
 
it is, but

1.) make sure u are on fin or dut first , as if u try regrowth without stabilizing hair loss first, its pretty retarded... altho u said ur already on fin, so thats good. (btw, take 0.5 mg daily rather than 1 mg ed at first to see if u need to up the dose or not).

2.) it is a pain in the ass.. so much shit to take, derma needling the scalp to cause wounding, even using a fucking light on ur head... lol. but it is worth it IMO. (thats another thing u can look into for ur skin... derma needling [ NOT rolling.. only needling] combined with a vit. c serum).

Lol yeah it seems ill have a pretty big list of stuff ill be using for the rest of my life
 
If it can atleast fix my ED issues, that alone would fix a big portion of my depression lol. I've had more times than I can count on both hands where my dick could not get hard for the life of me. No it wasn't nerves, I was more comfortable with some of these girls than I'd ever been with a human being

Maybe my post was too short. Propecia is 100% known to interfere with the male reproductive system because it DESTROYS androgens. Testosterone is an androgen, and estradiol is increased as it also drags progesterone into the dirt. Lower testosterone + higher estradiol + (potentially) higher prolactin = dick problems.

You can have good natty hormones OR a full head of hair, NOT both. I know far too many guys that think hair on your head means something - it doesn't, I assure you.

I have zero issues with balding and shave my head in fact. This doesn't somehow relegate me to a life of being inferior, or stop the hot broads from hitting on me. Your actions determine how others perceive you, not if you happen to have flowing locks of hair. Appearance is important, but there are other ways to improve that without destroying your body.

My .02c :)
 
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