TRT or not TRT - that is the question...

[Yarm]

Did u even have a sleep study done before TRT ?
The symptoms u list are not all related to Testosterone always.
It's easy to say "ya more test will help"...
Have u ever used steroids in the past?

I've never used steroids. Not even antibiotics or aspirin even.
Didn't do a sleep test

 

[Yarm]

Day 5 after discontinuing.
Two days were bad, and too a 1/4 dose which helped.
But now I feel ok.
I took Nux Vomica 200, and that worked magically. Feeling better now than I have in a long time. Libido, motivation and concentration all on the rise.

 

[Yarm]

Day 6: Does anyone know how long it takes for the HPTA to restart unaided by a PCT?
I seem to be doing ok, but am curious and wanted to know when to get my next blood test done as a check.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Day 6: Does anyone know how long it takes for the HPTA to restart unaided by a PCT?
I seem to be doing ok, but am curious and wanted to know when to get my next blood test done as a check.

It varies, but you need to let the exogenous test be excreted first. Your last injection was only 6 days ago?? You are still on TRT man. It'll take a good two weeks to fully remove all the test, then anywhere from 1-6months to resume your own production in full. I hope you are using clomid & nolva to help stimulate natural production back...

 

[Megatron28]

Day 6: Does anyone know how long it takes for the HPTA to restart unaided by a PCT?
I seem to be doing ok, but am curious and wanted to know when to get my next blood test done as a check.

Not aiding your HPTA Restart is probably an unwise choice. It will take a lot longer and sometime it doesn't restart without a "jump start".

 

[Yarm]

It varies, but you need to let the exogenous test be excreted first. Your last injection was only 6 days ago?? You are still on TRT man. It'll take a good two weeks to fully remove all the test, then anywhere from 1-6months to resume your own production in full. I hope you are using clomid & nolva to help stimulate natural production back...

No, I was on the creams. So half life I think is a day.

 

[Yarm]

Not aiding your HPTA Restart is probably an unwise choice. It will take a lot longer and sometime it doesn't restart without a "jump start".

Well I didn't have much choice in th matter.
I can supplement with a herbal PCP.

 

[Yarm]

Not aiding your HPTA Restart is probably an unwise choice. It will take a lot longer and sometime it doesn't restart without a "jump start".

Also I was only on for a month. So maybe that reduces the restart time.

 

[Yarm]

It varies, but you need to let the exogenous test be excreted first. Your last injection was only 6 days ago?? You are still on TRT man. It'll take a good two weeks to fully remove all the test, then anywhere from 1-6months to resume your own production in full. I hope you are using clomid & nolva to help stimulate natural production back...

Not Clomid for me. Having managed to get through week one I'm hopeful I'll be able to do without.

 

[Megatron28]

Well I didn't have much choice in th matter.
I can supplement with a herbal PCP.

Why not use the RUI source that I and others recommended for you? Or other Research Chemical companies? You moat certainly have a choice.

 

[Megatron28]

Also I was only on for a month. So maybe that reduces the restart time.

Maybe. Maybe not. Do you want to gamble with your one and only HPTA or give it its best chance of getting back to work again?

 

[Profion9k]

We have to be carefull and not motivate everybody to do TRT. Seriously, the injections, the time, bloodwork and so on really requires alot!
It is also way healthier to reboot your body and stay natural! I would always try to UP everything, turn your body into a testosterone making machine and if that does not succeed after 2-3months then something is wrong and TRT is the way to go.

The truth is, this world is poluted. But the minds of us humans living on it is like-wise! Computers, mobiles, microwave food, no exercises, and just a overall shitty unnatural life style is going to create unnatural low levels of testosterone. ALWAYS BUMP YOUR HEALTH AND SEE IF YOU CAN ROCKET YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS THAT WAY.
If not TRT.

 

[Alpin]

We have to be carefull and not motivate everybody to do TRT. Seriously, the injections, the time, bloodwork and so on really requires alot!
It is also way healthier to reboot your body and stay natural! I would always try to UP everything, turn your body into a testosterone making machine and if that does not succeed after 2-3months then something is wrong and TRT is the way to go.

The truth is, this world is poluted. But the minds of us humans living on it is like-wise! Computers, mobiles, microwave food, no exercises, and just a overall shitty unnatural life style is going to create unnatural low levels of testosterone. ALWAYS BUMP YOUR HEALTH AND SEE IF YOU CAN ROCKET YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS THAT WAY.
If not TRT.

Has any of that worked for you?????

 

[Yarm]

Maybe. Maybe not. Do you want to gamble with your one and only HPTA or give it its best chance of getting back to work again?

To order from the US means a delivery of two weeks later. I did do a 'herbal PCT' of pine pollen, tongat Ali and tribulus.
Somethings working, as on previous occasion when I stopped the creams I would crash after 3-4 days. This hasn't happened this time after being on TRT creams for three weeks.

 

[Megatron28]

To order from the US means a delivery of two weeks later. I did do a 'herbal PCT' of pine pollen, tongat Ali and tribulus.
Somethings working, as on previous occasion when I stopped the creams I would crash after 3-4 days. This hasn't happened this time after being on TRT creams for three weeks.

Good luck. Thank your doctor for being a retard.

I would place the order for PCT meds just in case. It is extremely likely your pollen will not work.

 

[Yarm]

Day 10: Blood test results
LH is back to 3,
T is at 342
So I seem to have recovered somewhat.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Guys, Yarms Natty T is in the 500's. I don't think TRT is likely the answer for him.

Day 10: Blood test results
LH is back to 3,
T is at 342
So I seem to have recovered somewhat.

I refer to the below. I would not say you have recovered, although it's only been 10 days so you still have time. I highly (highly) recommend you take Mega's advice and get proper PCT meds...

Pre Trt
T = 18.1 nmol/l (last test however was 11.9 after a low fat diet)
LH = 3
FSH = <2
DHEAS = 13 (normal range = 1 -9)

 

[Yarm]

I refer to the below. I would not say you have recovered, although it's only been 10 days so you still have time. I highly (highly) recommend you take Mega's advice and get proper PCT meds...

To get proper PCT meds such as Clomid requires a prescription. I don't have that option in my case.

I had a look at what was on offer at the RUI site, but nothing jumped out as a a clear PCT medication. Plus the reviews for Tamoxifen seemed fabricated, with no mention as to the nature of the product.

 

[Megatron28]

To get proper PCT meds such as Clomid requires a prescription. I don't have that option in my case.

I had a look at what was on offer at the RUI site, but nothing jumped out as a a clear PCT medication. Plus the reviews for Tamoxifen seemed fabricated, with no mention as to the nature of the product.

RUI has Clomid and Nolva. Both are used for PCT. What medications are you looking for in your PCT.

We are recommending RUI to you. But you are free to order from wherever you like. One doesn't have to look to hard to find Research Chemical retailers on the internet. I can see you get frustrated and give up easily.

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

To get proper PCT meds such as Clomid requires a prescription. I don't have that option in my case.

I had a look at what was on offer at the RUI site, but nothing jumped out as a a clear PCT medication. Plus the reviews for Tamoxifen seemed fabricated, with no mention as to the nature of the product.

You're a fucking idiot. Just leave, because you don't really want anyone's advice.

That's the site where they steered you, and you don't want to listen. I have only heard good things about their shit. Even if you don't want to use RUI, there are other sites out there.

RUI has Clomid and Nolva. Both are used for PCT. What medications are you looking for in your PCT.

We are recommending RUI to you. But you are free to order from wherever you like. One doesn't have to look to hard to find Research Chemical retailers on the internet. I can see you get frustrated and give up easily.

Megatron, I applaud your persistence.