True Test per gram a week

[Bonesaw0341]

Hey folks this my first post so hopefully I don't break any rules...
I'm just curious how many of you actually use a true 1g of test a week calculating for the molecular weight of the Esther? This is my 5th cycle and I've dialed things back to running just test for 12 weeks @ 1g Test Cyp and dbol @25mg for 5 weeks. Also I'm injecting 250mg EOD.

 

[Milton]

Welcome! This is a good point.

 

[Bonesaw0341]

Anyone have any insight?

 

[DucBase]

Well apparently I can't get properly dosed gear from the pharmacy so splitting hairs over ester weights isn't something I'm interested in...especially with my UGL stuff.

Aside from TRT I don't run anything but short esters now. I do consider that I'm getting more hormone per total weight but not to the point where I'm measuring out to the nearest 0.000 ml trying to account for it.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Welcome to O'ogy

Using UGL's I don't think it should be an issue because I don't think you can get a realistic calculation. I just go by the mgs on the label. I have done Test "only" for 10 weeks @ 1.5G wk. The gear was good as to my experience and of course I didn't jump in at that dose. E2 was a problem finding my dose of my AI

It was a real good cycle.

 

[Bonesaw0341]

Welcome to O'ogy


Using UGL's I don't think it should be an issue because I don't think you can get a realistic calculation. I just go by the mgs on the label. I have done Test "only" for 10 weeks @ 1.5G wk. The gear was good as to my experience and of course I didn't jump in at that dose. E2 was a problem finding my dose of my AI

It was a real good cycle.

Nice! Yea I was just curious as you always hear that "I was running 600mg of test" but is it actually? Knowing pharm grade is 70~mg of test per 100mg of test cyp, 1000mg is really 700mg of test. Imagine the gains on a true 1000mg of test. But yes UGL is difficult to calculate considering consistency. Assuming your UGL is quality, 1G of test is gonna yield some very nice results.

 

[halfwit]

Nice! Yea I was just curious as you always hear that "I was running 600mg of test" but is it actually? Knowing pharm grade is 70~mg of test per 100mg of test cyp, 1000mg is really 700mg of test. Imagine the gains on a true 1000mg of test. But yes UGL is difficult to calculate considering consistency. Assuming your UGL is quality, 1G of test is gonna yield some very nice results.

It's honestly not worth the effort as the difference between a gram and 700mg is really miniscule to be honest. I've run test as low as 100mg/wk (starting TRT) and as high as over 2.5g/wk. There just comes a point where the only real noticeable difference are the side effects and trying to manage them.

If you want to know just how futile this is (as a science major I dig the math and science aspects of AAS), not only is there ester weight, but there's also the fact that no two people cleave the ester at the same rate or efficiency. Some folks even metabolize the hormone so quickly that they see less active hormone before the body even has a true chance of putting it to use. Then there's that's pesky testosterone to free testosterone conversion rate as SHBG wants the biggest piece of the pie.

I suppose the best way to go about this is to take a shot of TNE/suspension every 2.5-4hrs, which is going to wear thin VERY quickly on even the most determined. That, and I can't imagine the manner in which controlling estradiol would be effective.

Besides, the absolute biggest factor is going to be what you're eating and how you put that hormone to use.

My 0.02c

 

[oldmusclemike]

So just run 1,450mg and by your figure you have 1g. But as Half said it really doesn't a big factor since as he said he has run up to 2.5g and me, I having run as much as 2g it wasn't any different for me as to 1-1.5 grams Foe me the higher I went after a gram was diminishing returns. so now I stop at 1g or maybe 1.25g.

AS half said the rest is up to diet (that's so important) and your training program. Lets not forget the importance of RESTING your body. AS I said on a different thread at my age I can easily over train so I need a lot of rest. I found that I really need to take two days as the weekend....age

 

[luckypaul]

You get up to a gram or more and you will see nice gains for certain. Sides intensify also. Stacks can come in handy. I like to stack deca with test because it is less androgenic, or stack compounds that don't aromatize with test to reduce water retention.

I have ran some massive cycles and got huge doing it, but I'm not sure the size gained out ways the health risks. My blood pressure was through the roof as was hematocrit.

 

[oldmusclemike]

You get up to a gram or more and you will see nice gains for certain. Sides intensify also. Stacks can come in handy. I like to stack deca with test because it is less androgenic, or stack compounds that don't aromatize with test to reduce water retention.

I have ran some massive cycles and got huge doing it, but I'm not sure the size gained out ways the health risks. My blood pressure was through the roof as was hematocrit.

Luck imo the health risks and for me having the diminishing returns wasn't worth. Now most of us talked about the side effects. Myself I like to look moreover at what is LMM as opposed as water weight and size being bloat. Again my 2c

 

[Bonesaw0341]

Great feedback guys. I like to keep things simple and I just wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page somewhat. Should i stay with 250mg of test cyp EOD or 500mg every 3rd? I also have arimadex on hand all in case. Never had problems with test before but I've also never run a gram a week.

 

[tbonexl]

You don't want to have an ai on hand with those doses. Better use it!

 

[oldmusclemike]

Great feedback guys. I like to keep things simple and I just wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page somewhat. Should i stay with 250mg of test cyp EOD or 500mg every 3rd? I also have arimadex on hand all in case. Never had problems with test before but I've also never run a gram a week.

The only problem with EOD is all the pinning. but everyone runs prop at EOD and I have also, but it does get old for some. I prefer 500 x 2 wk. It is just personal. You can always flip it.

You definitely need to run an AI from day one.

 

[halfwit]

Great feedback guys. I like to keep things simple and I just wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page somewhat. Should i stay with 250mg of test cyp EOD or 500mg every 3rd? I also have arimadex on hand all in case. Never had problems with test before but I've also never run a gram a week.

Personal preference, there's virtually no difference after four half-lives once it builds up in your system (about 32 days). Like the others stated, you should be on an AI now.

 

[Bonesaw0341]

I have arimadex in 1mg pills. I was thinking 1/2 mg EOD?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Cheers,

Found this place and just checking out what steroidology.com is all about!

Welcome but you need to go back to the entrance where newbies sign in and say something this is someone's thread as you can search the new posts, many by all the members. No problem though look around get to know the site and Good luck my friend .

 

[Milton]

Great advice, keep us posted!

 

[Bonesaw0341]

So I've been pinning EOD and it's been really nice. I was running arimidex @ .5 mg ED but I'm gonna try EOD to see how it feels. The Test Cyp I have has virtually zero pip. Super smooth so I got brave and split 1cc into both pecs. Backloaded an insulin needle and dimpled as deep as I could. Hopefully the virgin tissue isn't going to get too sore. I'll keep you guys posted. Anyone else brave the pec shot?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Unless you weigh 300 lbs there is no point in taking that much testosterone. It's just going to thin you out and give you a pair of tits. The body cant process that much.

 

[Bonesaw0341]

Your saying 1gram of test a week is going to thin me out?