Trying to get on TRT, need advice!

[Jean-Claude]

So I saw my endocrino (live in Canada) having done some bloodtests right after a Test/HGH cycle and I think I didn't wait long enough. I was on Sustanon and waited 13 days after my last shot to do the tests and my testosterone came out at double the normal amount and my my LH/FSH almost absent.. I guess I should've waited like one more week and started Nolva/Clomid before the blood tests to activate the production of LH and FSH while the test is still low? Anyway she asked me if I took gear looking at the results and I said, no but I had just stopped taking Andriol (pills I managed to get prescribed) so she think it's because of that.. Since then I've been pinning Proviron (test cypionate) once a week at 200mg to kind of start my own PCT..

The question is what do I do next, I'm supposed to see her in may, how long should I wait after my last shot of proviron to get my blood tests done and should I take some Clomid/Nolva a few days before in order to get some LH FSH going for the tests to seem more normal? There is also some hematology tests, so should I go give blood a few days beofore to try to reduce the red blood cells or something? Thanks in advance guys!

 

[3J]

proviron?? proviron isn't test c

 

[Milton]

So I saw my endocrino (live in Canada) having done some bloodtests right after a Test/HGH cycle and I think I didn't wait long enough. I was on Sustanon and waited 13 days after my last shot to do the tests and my testosterone came out at double the normal amount and my my LH/FSH almost absent.. I guess I should've waited like one more week and started Nolva/Clomid before the blood tests to activate the production of LH and FSH while the test is still low? Anyway she asked me if I took gear looking at the results and I said, no but I had just stopped taking Andriol (pills I managed to get prescribed) so she think it's because of that.. Since then I've been pinning Proviron (test cypionate) once a week at 200mg to kind of start my own PCT..

The question is what do I do next, I'm supposed to see her in may, how long should I wait after my last shot of proviron to get my blood tests done and should I take some Clomid/Nolva a few days before in order to get some LH FSH going for the tests to seem more normal? There is also some hematology tests, so should I go give blood a few days beofore to try to reduce the red blood cells or something? Thanks in advance guys!

Ca you clarify?

 

[Jean-Claude]

proviron?? proviron isn't test c

Oops sorry I meant Depoviron by Innovagen.

 

[Jean-Claude]

Ca you clarify?

Yes what part would you like me to clarify?

 

[Megatron28]

Finish PCT and wait about 8 weeks before going back to your doctor. Although it sounds like your doc isn't stupid so she probably sees through your game.

 

[Jean-Claude]

Finish PCT and wait about 8 weeks before going back to your doctor. Although it sounds like your doc isn't stupid so she probably sees through your game.

You mean 8 weeks after my last shot? That would mean 2 weeks after PCT. That's when you would do the blood tests? Won't my natural test levels be pretty much back to normal by then? I'm trying to aim for the period of time where my test would be the lowest and my LH FSH be somewhat normal.

She thinks I've been taking orals (Andriol) for a few years so the high test would be due to that.

 

[Megatron28]

You mean 8 weeks after my last shot? That would mean 2 weeks after PCT. That's when you would do the blood tests? Won't my natural test levels be pretty much back to normal by then? I'm trying to aim for the period of time where my test would be the lowest and my LH FSH be somewhat normal.

She thinks I've been taking orals (Andriol) for a few years so the high test would be due to that.

Oh. So you really aren't hypogonadal? You are just trying to get a script for Test to use on cycles?

 

[Teutonic]

Use an on line trt source alter ur numbers to what u want using font size, paper cutter, scotch tape and copier...easier than making funny money

 

[Jean-Claude]

Use an on line trt source alter ur numbers to what u want using font size, paper cutter, scotch tape and copier...easier than making funny money

That sounds great but I live in Canada, here you need a prescription to get a blood test, which I have but then, it's the medical facility that sends the results to the doctor... but still can you give me a link of one of these? Thanks!

 

[Jean-Claude]

Oh. So you really aren't hypogonadal? You are just trying to get a script for Test to use on cycles?

I'm not, my natty test levels are just meh, plus I have some really nasty genes, I just can't live that way..

 

[Teutonic]

ooops

 

[halfwit]

I'm not, my natty test levels are just meh, plus I have some really nasty genes, I just can't live that way..

Andriol IS oral testosterone; but I didn't think it was still prescribed. If you have a script for that, why are you trying to PCT at all as it is a TRT medication. You have a set precedence of having a prescription, so why are you jumping through hoops? Just state that you want to switch to injectables and show the script.

Done.

However, if you want to continue trying to trick an endo, you just did it wrong, and may be up for one hell of an uphill battle. Doctors don't like that, and tend to hold grudges.

 

[Jean-Claude]

Andriol IS oral testosterone; but I didn't think it was still prescribed. If you have a script for that, why are you trying to PCT at all as it is a TRT medication. You have a set precedence of having a prescription, so why are you jumping through hoops? Just state that you want to switch to injectables and show the script.

Done.

However, if you want to continue trying to trick an endo, you just did it wrong, and may be up for one hell of an uphill battle. Doctors don't like that, and tend to hold grudges.

Lol like I haven't thought of that. I still need her to prescribe me injectables even if I've had orals. The last time I asked her to switch to injectables and she was like I want to see some blood tests when you are off the andriol to see if it might be a pituitary gland related problem or just testicle production.. So she is not gonna prescribe me anything until I come back with blood tests that show I do have low test and probably some LH FSH at least.

If I didn't have to do all that believe me I wouldn't. And if it doesn't work with her I'll just ask to see another endo.

 

[Megatron28]

Lol like I haven't thought of that. I still need her to prescribe me injectables even if I've had orals. The last time I asked her to switch to injectables and she was like I want to see some blood tests when you are off the andriol to see if it might be a pituitary gland related problem or just testicle production.. So she is not gonna prescribe me anything until I come back with blood tests that show I do have low test and probably some LH FSH at least.

If I didn't have to do all that believe me I wouldn't. And if it doesn't work with her I'll just ask to see another endo.

Did you ask her if the outcome would change what she prescribes?

 

[Jean-Claude]

Did you ask her if the outcome would change what she prescribes?

She's saying she wants to see if my pituitary gland is functioning normally and we can't really see it while I'm on Andriol, it she sees it's normal and the test still pretty low she's gonna prescribe me some injectables for sure.

 

[halfwit]

She's saying she wants to see if my pituitary gland is functioning normally and we can't really see it while I'm on Andriol, it she sees it's normal and the test still pretty low she's gonna prescribe me some injectables for sure.

So is she just trying to rule out a pituitary tumor? I think I'd move on as it really doesn't matter if you're primary or secondary at this point, now does it?

She can rule out testicular and pituitary problems with an MRI/ultrasound for the most part. I'd personally just move on as she's not willing to take a precedent diagnosis.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Your not getting squat out of her now. She's not as dumb as you. Why didnt you wait till the compound were out of your system.

 

[Jean-Claude]

Your not getting squat out of her now. She's not as dumb as you. Why didnt you wait till the compound were out of your system.

Stupid question, why would I volontarely take my blood tests if I knew my test was still high. I had read from a couple sources that 2 weeks after your last shot, your test was at its lowest.

 

[Jean-Claude]

So is she just trying to rule out a pituitary tumor? I think I'd move on as it really doesn't matter if you're primary or secondary at this point, now does it?

She can rule out testicular and pituitary problems with an MRI/ultrasound for the most part. I'd personally just move on as she's not willing to take a precedent diagnosis.

You mean you'd try to see another endo?