UG vs Pharmacy HGH
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Zeek
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Sorry bro , I should have been more clear. I mean it in terms of HGH. It's what the op is asking about.
I have no personal experience but I asked a similar question to a number of long-time users in their late 30s through 50s. The consensus seemed to be that US pharma grade felt 3-4x as potent per IU as imported/black market. Maybe some degradation in process or shipping but there does seem to also be variance in imported sources. Of course pharma is several multiples the cost of import per IU so maybe cost wise it's a wash.
Like I said, no personal experience but that was the answer I got. These people are also not averse to UG or home-brewed gear but this was their thoughts and experience with HGH. Hope it helps.
Like I said, no personal experience but that was the answer I got. These people are also not averse to UG or home-brewed gear but this was their thoughts and experience with HGH. Hope it helps.
Depends. Agree with ZEEK but I know of one ug brand of gh that is perfect in every way. Very very clean. BG levels increase and stay at that elevation and not the up and down most genetics do, igf is steadily increased, just very clean. Will produce CTS but not a lot of the other things like sweating that can happen after inject etc.
Hg would be the way to go but I'm sticking to one brand of UGL.
Hg would be the way to go but I'm sticking to one brand of UGL.
I honestly don't think anything is safe to say. It can be a bit dicey with powders and UGLs but think about test or anabolics - as long as it's clean and properly dosed and doesn't have the shit abused out of it it will last for a decade or more. HGH is a totally different molecule and much less resilient - just look at care/handling and how long it lasts even when properly cared for. I think this is the issue and I'd think explains a lot of the varriance in quality (the rest may be explained purely by price/margins). With US Pharma you are guaranteed something.
When I asked this question it was because my Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) program included 1-1.5 iu daily of HGH. Having heard the minimum was 4iu I didn't really want to waste my money/time (still pondering it). Most felt that the 4iu minimum was arrived at due to the lower quality imports and that 1iu of US Pharma was close or equivalent to that "general 4iu" guideline. At the end of the day though, it's all about a particular brand/source isn't it? If they were all handled, dosed, etc... just like US Pharma there'd be no difference but apparently there's a pretty big one. If you get a good UGL that meets the standard, well a molecule is a molecule as they say.
Zeek
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there was a lot of trickery for a long time coming from GH dealers out of China. the main fast one they were pulling was selling 4iu vials of HGH as 10iu vials. With everyone now checking IGF-1 levels most of that practice is now dead.
There is so much competition out there for HGH and so much cash to be made selling it that todays generics coming out of China are vastly superior to what they were just a couyple of years ago. I feel that 4iu of humatrope is equal to 4iu of Jintropin.
That test on the other board you mentioned to me earlier is testing USA pharm grade, rips, eli's and some supposed other USA pharm grade. I'm dying to see those results!
There is so much competition out there for HGH and so much cash to be made selling it that todays generics coming out of China are vastly superior to what they were just a couyple of years ago. I feel that 4iu of humatrope is equal to 4iu of Jintropin.
That test on the other board you mentioned to me earlier is testing USA pharm grade, rips, eli's and some supposed other USA pharm grade. I'm dying to see those results!
Zoofus, my thoughts exactly. 2iu of Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) or 4,6,8,10iu.... for a cycle. Just trying to find the happy medium with one or the other. I also am asking because I remember reading about a lab getting busted and the documents stated that they had some (super machine) that would split the hgh milligrams that they had purchased in bulk and would essentially half the strength but double the quantity. So I am just wondering if 5mg at 15iu is equal on both sides of the market.
Zeek
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It is a complicated thing they don't want any of the tests or results posted on any other board and I'm not going to send people over to a competing website out of respect for my home board (this one). The results are not in yet though, maybe next week
I'm sure somebody will slip up and post them off the board, it just won't be me. Sorry
It is a complicated thing they don't want any of the tests or results posted on any other board and I'm not going to send people over to a competing website out of respect for my home board (this one). The results are not in yet though, maybe next week
I'm sure somebody will slip up and post them off the board, it just won't be me. Sorry
I can appreciate that. This board is great!
