users under 20 supplying with testo, big gains?

Better for him to go on diet forum and ask for a complete diet.

after that on training forum. and ask for good routine of workout.

Nothing should be better for him to stay natural till 23 years, growing 30 lbs and keeping it natural for some years.

AAS will not help nobody to grow, it's just an help if you reach your natural limits.

ther's story about BB who took some oral while there were young, but it's wiked to try.
hightly wiked. also. no injectable AAs, whichever it is, it's nothing good to advice else, to stay natural.
 
Once again I'm gonna have to bring up the fact that the large majority of famous BB's hit the juice when they were 16+. Don't get me wrong, I highly doubt this kid wants to become a BB but I'm just stating facts. Also not trying to hate on you what so ever Biggen, in fact your one of my favorite dudes on this board, but if memory serves I remember you stating that you started at 17. If I was in your posistion I would want to help my brother, if and only if I could tell he was seriously dedicated. You could give him some kind of ultimatum along the lines of making him train/eat his ass off for 6 months then you would let him juice hopefully he would be changed his mind by then. If that's not the case have your brother run 500mg a week, 250mg every 3 days. Have Nolva on hand in case he starts to notice gyno, if he does run it at 40mg until symptoms subside then keep it at around 20mg a day for the duration of the cycle. Start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last injection run nolva 40/30-20/20 until he feels TOTALLY recovered and If I was you I'd have him run it for another 1-2weeks after that, no sense it not being 110% sure. That's worst case scenario though dude, you could always get him some phony ass ANABOLIC SHIT! and telll him it's legit, you could make him pay for his entire cycle which would likely be around....450-600 dollars(which might defer him). Or get him to take something like methyl 1D (fakest shit I've ever come across, waste of 140 dollars) or something off of a phony site that sells bogus crap.
 
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if it was my kid brother i would just trick him and buy some of those legal anbolics that dont do shit, train with him, and help him on is dieting. then after the time past and he recieve good result, break the news to him.
 
Once again I'm gonna have to bring up the fact that the large majority of famous BB's hit the juice when they were 16+. Don't get me wrong, I highly doubt this kid wants to become a BB but I'm just stating facts. Also not trying to hate on you what so ever Biggen, in fact your one of my favorite dudes on this board, but if memory serves I remember you stating that you started at 17. If I was in your posistion I would want to help my brother, if and only if I could tell he was seriously dedicated. You could give him some kind of ultimatum along the lines of making him train/eat his ass off for 6 months then you would let him juice hopefully he would be changed his mind by then. If that's not the case have your brother run 500mg a week, 250mg every 3 days. Have Nolva on hand in case he starts to notice gyno, if he does run it at 40mg until symptoms subside then keep it at around 20mg a day for the duration of the cycle. Start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last injection run nolva 40/30-20/20 until he feels TOTALLY recovered and If I was you I'd have him run it for another 1-2weeks after that, no sense it not being 110% sure. That's worst case scenario though dude, you could always get him some phony ass ANABOLIC SHIT! and telll him it's legit, you could make him pay for his entire cycle which would likely be around....450-600 dollars(which might defer him). Or get him to take something like methyl 1D (fakest shit I've ever come across, waste of 140 dollars) or something off of a phony site that sells bogus crap.




hahaha, same thing i was thinking.
 
Ur absolutely right Rougen, I started very early with little knowledge, and through mistakes and errors, I gained a little knowledge from my mistakes and those around me. Honestly, thats why Im against it. This is nothing to play with and once ur in, ur in. At least for those of us that have a passion for this.. I really dont want this kid to mess up, I didnt thankfully, he might, he might not. But kids are different today than from back in the day. Hes a new generation, and hes already started out wrong, I see it, because I did it, thats all. He may not be in it for life like some of us. I know the minute I got my first injection, this was for me, no questions bout it!!
 
That's worst case scenario though dude, you could always get him some phony ass ANABOLIC SHIT! and telll him it's legit, you could make him pay for his entire cycle which would likely be around....450-600 dollars(which might defer him). Or get him to take something like methyl 1D (fakest shit I've ever come across, waste of 140 dollars) or something off of a phony site that sells bogus crap.

LOL... Good Idea.. Go buy some sterile USP oil and throw it in 10ml bottles. Tell him its Test.
 
This kids already had the real-deal, he want fall for that shit. If its not in a syringe, he want play.. I promise U.
 
I think it would be wise for the admin to prevent any underage kids partaking in steroid discussions and usage and prevent anyone from giving any advice to underage kids. There would be a legality issue here, and may raise red flags and pull the attention of those who strongly oppose it.
We don't need that sort of spot light. If anything happens to these kids it would be brought to light that their advice came from these forums. Better to prevent all this. If it were your child I'm sure youd want someone to take the pistol out of his hands, rather than saying "since you're going to use it anyway, let me show you how".

Btw OP, I know you're not talking about your brother and it is you who is 18 and possibly 16 or 17 and want the advice for yourself. You'll stun your growth and hurt your system bad. If I had the testosterone that would be producing at your age, I wouldn't be taking steroids today. Take advantage of your youth, you'd be surprised with what the current stuff on the market can do to you these days and what gains you can achieve at your age. With supplements alone I can guarantee you you can put on 20lbs in less than 3 months. If you want I can provide you the supps names, proper traiing, and even a diet. People won't recognize you in 3 months. You'll make, at most, 5lbs extra using steroids on cycle for 3 months. Is it worth it?
 
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Bad thing is there are plenty of threads just sitting there for 18 year old kids or younger to get their info from. There is nothing out there to prevent this...

You may be right scar, about this possibly being the 18 year old kid asking the question. Maybe that's why he hasn't replied...
 
My thoughts exactly!!! Either way, were damned if we do and damned if we dont..
 
Where U at Deadviking for the second time??? Dont be shy homeboy..
 
Btw OP, I know you're not talking about your brother and it is you who is 18 and possibly 16 or 17 and want the advice for yourself.

I'm sorry, but thats not a fact. I'm replying this late because Iv been busy working on my bachelor case in marketing the past days.

The thing is, I got my brother into stronglifts with me, years ago. Then two years ago, I did my first cycle and both my brother and I were amazed at the gains. I had no fysical bis, but the psychological sides really messed me up when I was done. So I haven't made another injection since. And now, two years later, my brother wants to try it.

He is not new to training, he's diet and work out is actually pretty good. But I feel he does not have enough info and awareness about aas, and of course, his age.

Why do you say that he shouldn't be injecting? I would really prefer that instead of ruining his liver
 
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