Very Confused/Help

[Gettin'Old]

Hey all, I've posted this in a couple other places but can't seem to figure out what is going on here. Let me give a little background and explain:

This is my second cycle. The first was mild, 300mg test cyp/week for 9 weeks. I exploded, going from 190 to 218 lbs. All the water I was retaining made me feel and look monstrous and I was a lot stronger. Post cycle, I ran clomid and eventually settled in at 204 lbs. I was quite pleased to keep 14 pounds. However, during that first cycle, along with the water etc. came massive bloat of the midsection and puffiness in the face. Not a big deal, but the midsection bloat sux. Also, on this first cycle I "felt" the test almost right away and the massive boost in libido was undeniable. It was great!


Now, on my second cycle (I'm 1 month in running 400 mgs test/week) (both cycles are human grade) after 1 month I'm only up 3 lbs and I don't feel like I look like I'm on. Actually, I don't "Feel" like I'm on. I'm also not experiencing the massive libido boost that I had on the first cycle. I'm actually experiencing severe problems in that department. I don't understand this. My strength is up substantially, and I don't usually just gain 3 pounds in 2 weeks so I know the gear is good - - or at least I'm on something. It is very genuine looking schering enan and looks just like posted pics.


I'm running 20 mgs of nolva throughout and this has really, really helped keep the bloat down but I'm not sure what other affects it may be having.

I'm totally perplexed about the loss of libido issue. I thought EVERYONE got raging libido from test. Is this true?

Any thoughts? Help.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I really don't know what to tell you. I assume your diet and training are in order. It usually takes a good 3-4 weeks to start really feeling the effects, longer for some, maybe on your first cycle you experienced more of a placebo effect so quickly, and now your expectations are too high......I don't really know, that's just a thought.

On another front, you stated that Nolvadex was keeping your bloat down, well it is actually a SERM and will do very little, if anything to combat water retention. To control bloat, you have to control the aromatization of Test to Estrogen and therefore you need an Estrogen Inhibitor like Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin.

 

[Gettin'Old]

StoneCold, thanks. Based on what you're saying I'm even more skeptical that I've been taking test then b/c I exploded with water on my first test cycle and, if the nolva won't prevent water retention, then it just doesn't make sense that I haven't gained any weight in 4 weeks.

I know I'm "on something" since my strength is up. I wonder what I'm on.

It is well known test aromatizes and water retention occurs from the resulting estrogen, correct? Therefore, my strength, size (due to both muscle and water) should be up after 4 weeks, shouldn't they??

 

[Focker]

Hmm that's really wierd. Is it possible that you got fakes.... mabye not true fakes but perhaps something in there besides test? It almost sounds like your running straight deca based on the libido issues you described. 400mgs of test should have you spanking your girl like there's no tomorrow.

 

[Flex it]

What are you taking? Testiviron Depot, Primoteston Depot? Could you post a pic? The only thing I could think of if your gear is real, is that youe diet is very bad along with your sleep and your training.. just a thought.

 

[Gettin'Old]

Focker and Flex It:

Focker, I was thinking exactly the same thing bro. It's the only plausible explanation I can possibly think of. Plus, it has to be something since my strength is up so much. If it was deca would I have size from water retention at 4 weeks?? Is deca much cheaper than test that it would be worthwhile for someone to put deca in instead of test??

Flex It: It's Primoteston Depot. I don't have any pics but I can probably find a link that shows exactly what it looks like. It looks like the genuine article. Are these Schering amps easily faked?

Diet, training and sleep are good. Same basics I used on my last cycle during which I exploded for a gain of 28 lbs in 9 weeks and kept 14 lbs. I've been feeling really good lately and having good training until this!!

I'll look for that link.

 

[Gettin'Old]

Mine look exactly like these except mine have a white line around the neck of the amp, where you would break it open:


http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13549&highlight=*schering*

Is that link working? If not, how should I copy it so that it does? It's from the pics forum on this board.

 

[Gettin'Old]

Hey all, I'm extremely pleased and relieved to report the problem entirely resolved on Monday night. Man, what a relief, in more ways then one. Again last night everything was in superb working order; in fact things seem to be moving mysteriously in the other direction.

I have no explanation for why this problem so suddenly and unexpectedly set in or why it has suddenly resolved.

I very much appreciate all the help that was given. If the problem "reappears" you know I'll be crying out for help. For the time being I'm a happy camper again.

Best of luck to all others who are in this boat.

GO