Very Low Total T 2 weeks after PCT

[DADAWG]

Alright, so it's been a long road to recovery. But I have a lot of data and clarity of my situation. Here's the run down:

8/26 - Total T at 51
9/2 - Total T at 68

*Ran 4 weeks of Clomid and Nolva therapy

10/5 - Total T at 417 and Free T at 8.5

* Ran 2500IU E4D Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for 2 weeks

10/19 - Total T at 897 and Free T at 16.1

At that point, besides the mediocre free test, I felt that I recovered. The low T symptoms were gone and I immediately put on a good amount of muscle (nice to see my work in the gym progressing rather than regressing).

So I got more blood work done to make sure my levels were good (along with a host of other hormone related tests)....

11/4 - Total T at 398 and Free T at 8.1

The 11/4 results looks very similar to that of 10/5 which the doc and I both feel now is my baseline.

The advice I'd like to seek is what route to take now. I think there are probably a couple options:

1) Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) + natural adrenal support supplements (DHEA, pregnenolone, stinging needle, etc.)

2) Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) + Testosterone Lipoderm cream + natural adrenal support

3) Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) + Testosterone Cyp

4) Testosterone Cyp only

What would you guys lean towards, or what else would you add to my options? Thanks ahead of time for the inputs.

so you ran then Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) anyway and even though it TEMPORARILY raised test it went right back to as before .
i gave you my advice and you ignored it , good luck.

 

[BigNotch44]

Actually, I took your advice and ran clomid/nolva only. Total T settle to 400. Obviously not high enough. Ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) based on the below article:

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/56201-how-prevent-treat-permanent-shut-down.html

T went up and then back to the same old 400.

My question is, since my baseline seems to be around 400, what is the best advice on keeping it at the upper end of normal?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

So post cycle therapy (pct) started 1 week after last shot (should have waited 3 weeks bc of esters--lesson learned)

thats the rpoblem with your post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[BigNotch44]

Yes, but I believe I recovered after my second round of post cycle therapy (pct) to what my baseline was before my cycle... Total T of 400.

I probably need to bump this to a new thread, but I'd like to see what's the best treatment for an upper normal range of T (around 1000). Obviously Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) did the trick, temporarily, allowing my body to make endogenous testosterone but then it fell back to 400.

Has anyone used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as an Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) if they are experiencing secondary hypo like I am? Should I even experiment with the cream, or just run testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosages of Cyp?

 

[surfdog]

Tapering the test was my plan for 2 weeks after my last deca shot but my source cut my bottles short by 1cc each! Will find another source...

you will find this is the norm cause there is waist from every shot, not necessarily a shorted bottle, just my experience.