Wanting to add in humulin r ??

[IdolizeGains]

Currently running test e at 750 off season. Stats 6'0 210 8% bf. 24 y/o and competed consistently since late teens. AMature open class now.

I'm a big believer adding things in slowly. I've only done test for offseason gains but I want to add in humulin r for a few reasons other than just being easy to get. I know its best run with growth but that is for the future - for me anyway. So would it be beneficial for me to do this post workout? Any help to gain lean mass would be great. Diet stays hella strict year round. Advice?

 

[New alias]

I think most ppl around here would agree with me that insulin should be one of the last hormones u add in.

One error and u may die or suffer horible paralysis. Im not gonna tell u what to do, but Ill personally experiment with everything under the sun before touching slin... or dnp... But thats another story.

Stay safe.

 

[IdolizeGains]

I think most ppl around here would agree with me that insulin should be one of the last hormones u add in.

One error and u may die or suffer horible paralysis. Im not gonna tell u what to do, but Ill personally experiment with everything under the sun before touching slin... or dnp... But thats another story.


Stay safe.

I'm aware of this but I'm just wondering about the gains? Is it worth it without the GH?

 

[Roush]

If your goal is to gain lean mass --- Tren Ace .. way more bang and safer then slin

 

[49ER]

Op you look great i cant comment from experience only frim what ive read experienced guys saying. Only use slin with real pharm grade hgh and you also can fuck up your look without hgh in the mix.

 

[IdolizeGains]

Thanks man, I'll steer clear from it for now.

 

[49ER]

Thanks man, I'll steer clear from it for now.

Im assuming thats u in avi? You have alot of potential not sure what your goals are but you look awsome and your still young.

 

[tury694]

I don't think insulin is that dangerous if the user is of at least average intelligence. If adding size is your goal then insulin is one of the best. If you want lean mass then I would go for tren. I don't know if there is a scientific basis for having to run it with gh, but maybe ripped godzilla, mega, or Halfwit can chime in.

 

[DR. ATMOSPHERE]

The combination of them is synergistic in that it allows for greater insulin like growth factor production and expression. Insulin will help you pack on the weight. If you have a pin-point diet then go for it! Eating at maintenance caloric intake and you will still pack on weight. Don't consume more food than normal while the slin is active or you can gain some BF. Pre-workout. I like a variation of the mike arnold protocol. Google mike arnold humulin r protocol.

 

[49ER]

Gh allows the insulin to push water into the muscles and prevents you from getting fat im just parroting this but i believe these guys heres my version.

Insulin allows the neuron recepticle molecules to bind with the growth hormone transmiter neuron adams. When in conjunction the hormonal response is 1000×MORE anabolic than any steroid. It causes huge amounts of glucose molecule retention in the muscle nucleus causing huge amounts of insulin growth factor dna transmission to the deep muscle follicles.

 

[Roush]

Back in the day pro body builders used test, Dbol, deca, primo, etc etc.. They had vacuum tight waist lines and abs but were still massive.. Today pros are massive as well but have pregnant bloated bellies that they struggle to hold in even during a show posing..

Has our food changed for the worse, has our gear and AAS gone bad.. What's up. Hmmm, maybe it's the abuse of slin and pinning a shit ton hgh that's causing this pot belly movement in body building.. Just a theory,, cause Arnold had no pot belly, no hgh and slin,, and was still massive. And he preferred Primo btw

 

[Roush]

Not to Chang the subject too much,, but my above post.

Look at this video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_LMzQ0UKE


There is no theory given why.. But maybe it's some of the new compounds guys are using that have an effect on this

 

[49ER]

Arnold did use hgh the first version human cadavers it was pretty common in that era and was stopped because bad reactions deformed looking heads, look at arnolds face and jaw i think its from that weird hgh they used from dead bodies. No doubt there gear was better back then no chinese crap everything was made by a pharmacy also food was real back then we have fucken garbage man made versions of food.

Insulin and gh abuse ruined bodybuilding, but its what the fans and judges wanna see and it keeps getting worse now we got fucked up looking mutant bodybuilders with big ass extended guts.

 

[49ER]

Inwas kidding about my theory too everybody by the way nkw that i look at what i wrote it actually sounds pretty fucken scientific and someone might think i knew whwt i was typing

 

[DR. ATMOSPHERE]

You can definately use insulin without growth. It is good to use on cycle as it helps you stay slightly leaner. If your diet is on point and you can figure out your calorie needs then you wont have any problems. Supplement with items to keep you insulin sensitive (cinnamon, NAC, RALA, low-carb/high-fat off days). I know guys that can use less harmful AAS (like exclusively test-only cylces) and lower dosages of AAS to maintain a fuller physic. As long as food intake is what it should be and you use it 4 days a week tops, you will stay insulin sensitive and reap huge rewards. The only danger of insulin to any semi-intelligent human is insulin resistance which is a result of not havin your shit together when it comes to nutrient intake. The whole "insulin is dangerous so use more AAS or more powerful AAS" is total rubbish in my opinion.

 

[DR. ATMOSPHERE]

Also, all those guys from the old days were using so many freakin orals and other shit. I believe it is healthier to use synergy between all of these items in reasonable amounts and avoid the quintuple bypass surgeries and other heart explosions that those old time bodybuilders experienced because of toxic prolonged use of AAS. Keep insulin, growth and test all reasonable and be a beast with your diet and you will be healthier and happier with your gains in the long run.

 

[49ER]

You can definately use insulin without growth. It is good to use on cycle as it helps you stay slightly leaner. If your diet is on point and you can figure out your calorie needs then you wont have any problems. Supplement with items to keep you insulin sensitive (cinnamon, NAC, RALA, low-carb/high-fat off days). I know guys that can use less harmful AAS (like exclusively test-only cylces) and lower dosages of AAS to maintain a fuller physic. As long as food intake is what it should be and you use it 4 days a week tops, you will stay insulin sensitive and reap huge rewards. The only danger of insulin to any semi-intelligent human is insulin resistance which is a result of not havin your shit together when it comes to nutrient intake. The whole "insulin is dangerous so use more AAS or more powerful AAS" is total rubbish in my opinion.

Are you saying this to average gym rat or who? So is tren rubbish? Looks like op competes is tren not a good idea cuz anyone who makes it anywhere in competing is on tren. Insulin is not gonna do what its really supposed to do if u just wanna look fuller use aas insulin is to add size slabs of muscle and i dont tgink insulin is dangerous by the way.

 

[halfwit]

You can definately use insulin without growth. It is good to use on cycle as it helps you stay slightly leaner. If your diet is on point and you can figure out your calorie needs then you wont have any problems. Supplement with items to keep you insulin sensitive (cinnamon, NAC, RALA, low-carb/high-fat off days). I know guys that can use less harmful AAS (like exclusively test-only cylces) and lower dosages of AAS to maintain a fuller physic. As long as food intake is what it should be and you use it 4 days a week tops, you will stay insulin sensitive and reap huge rewards. The only danger of insulin to any semi-intelligent human is insulin resistance which is a result of not havin your shit together when it comes to nutrient intake. The whole "insulin is dangerous so use more AAS or more powerful AAS" is total rubbish in my opinion.

How does insulin keep you leaner? Insulin shuttles EVERYTHING into your cells at an increased rate, and it certainly doesn't distinguish between desirable macros or not. The entire point behind insulin use is when consuming INCREDIBLE amounts of calories, and putting them to work more efficiently.

I'm not going to touch on that whole pesky death thing, but I will say that diet efficiency should be laser-refined before even thinking about adding it. Otherwise, fat gain and terrible bloat can and will occur.

My .02c

 

[49ER]

I like naked turtles

 

[DR. ATMOSPHERE]

How does insulin keep you leaner? Insulin shuttles EVERYTHING into your cells at an increased rate, and it certainly doesn't distinguish between desirable macros or not. The entire point behind insulin use is when consuming INCREDIBLE amounts of calories, and putting them to work more efficiently.

I'm not going to touch on that whole pesky death thing, but I will say that diet efficiency should be laser-refined before even thinking about adding it. Otherwise, fat gain and terrible bloat can and will occur.

My .02c

The way i worded that was incorrect. Using slin alongside gear helps to ensure leanness. Vs using slin alone.