Was advised by my guy to run this cycle

[JWS77]

Any suggestions? criticisms welcome...

Age 33, 5'11 178lbs 12-14% bf, training off/on 5yrs.

Bulk:
-40mg Dbol ED @ 5wks.
-1/2cc test 400 & 1/2cc cyp 250 mix 2xWeek @ 650mg EW @ 10wks.

1 week after last pin...

Cut:
-2ml EW Tren E @ 300mg EW @ 10wks.
-200mg Anavar EW @ 10wks.

Pct:
-100mg Clomid ED @ 30days.

Wanted to run Nolva for water retention during my bulk cycle, but was told not really needed, just more cardio and more water intake and less sodium intake. I'm not sensitive to gyno.

 

[smiley02]

is this ur first cycle ...... just wondering why u will take test e and test cyp together... thanks

 

[JWS77]

is this ur first cycle ...... just wondering why u will take test e and test cyp together... thanks

Not first cycle, ran dbol and andropen 275 before. Running test 400 and cyp mix cause I happen to have both on hand, and 650mg EW is better than 400mg EW.

 

[smiley02]

Not first cycle, ran dbol and andropen 275 before. Running test 400 and cyp mix cause I happen to have both on hand, and 650mg EW is better than 400mg EW.

ok IMHO to me test is test but i dont like anythinng more then 500mg ev and i will do 12 week....... tren e idont think that u are ready for it know but if u want do tren A..... var for cut i think u meant to put it when u bulk not when u cut ........ what bout hcg???????

 

[smiley02]

5,11 178lb i think u need to work on ur dite more than anything .........good luck

 

[JWS77]

ok IMHO to me test is test but i dont like anythinng more then 500mg ev and i will do 12 week....... tren e idont think that u are ready for it know but if u want do tren A..... var for cut i think u meant to put it when u bulk not when u cut ........ what bout hcg???????

I am gonna run tren e @ 300mg EW for 10wks. Also running Anavar for my cut cycle right after my bulk cycle with one week off after last pin.
post cycle therapy (pct) will start after both bulk and cut cycles are done. Test is test, yes. Just happen to have both test 400 and test cyp on hand. I could run just the test 400 @ 10wks for 400mg EW. Would uppping it to 650mg EW make any difference really if I mix the cyp and test 400?
Was gonna run Nolva during my bulk cycle too for water retention, but was just told to just do more cardio and drink more water. If I was gonna go with Nolva during my bulk, how much is sufficient do you think? Is the bulk cycle and cut cycle back to back with one week off ok before starting post cycle therapy (pct)? or should I do a post cycle therapy (pct) after bulk cycle, and again after cut cycle? I'm looking into Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at the moment...not starting this shit for another month or so of natural weight pit action.

 

[JWS77]

5,11 178lb i think u need to work on ur dite more than anything .........good luck

No doubt about that, I had a bad set circumstances and was locked up for awhile and my diet went to shit (of course) and lost some of my gains from last cycle, also could not utilize a post cycle therapy (pct) my last cycle as well (same reason). Thanks for your hep bro.

 

[joetapout]

sounds like a hard cycle.its gona shut u down hard,should atleast add 250ius Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weekly.and just a heads up test 400 hurts like a bitch and knots up baddd,but im a pussy.just my 2 cents.

 

[joetapout]

nolva wont keep water retention down, just keeps estrogen from building in the chest to prevent gyno. aromisin would be a better pick to hold down the bloat.20 weeks thats a long run u dont fuck around

 

[JWS77]

sounds like a hard cycle.its gona shut u down hard,should atleast add 250ius Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weekly.and just a heads up test 400 hurts like a bitch and knots up baddd,but im a pussy.just my 2 cents.

Ahh shit really? never tried it before, but was told andropen 275 hurts more and that shit didn't hurt me at all...other than once I got knotted in my quad pretty bad, but it goes away after awhile lol.

Only 250iu's? not 500? never done Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before...

 

[JWS77]

nolva wont keep water retention down, just keeps estrogen from building in the chest to prevent gyno. aromisin would be a better pick to hold down the bloat.20 weeks thats a long run u dont fuck around

I agree but was kind of talked out of it by my guy, fuck. Ok so fuck the nolva, how much aromasin? 12.5mg ED? when should I start that? and for how long?

 

[JWS77]

Need a vet to post some good info/advice on this

 

[Pinnacle@Rep]

Ahh shit really? never tried it before, but was told andropen 275 hurts more and that shit didn't hurt me at all...other than once I got knotted in my quad pretty bad, but it goes away after awhile lol.

Only 250iu's? not 500? never done Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before...

I have made 400 for 5 friends now and none of them could hack the pain!!! Good luck bro! Is it labeled gear from one of these UGL's??? If so then you might be okay cause if it says 400 you really got bout 300..... maybe! But if it is homebrew and there is a full 4 grams shoved into that little 10ml vial then get ready lol it will be tough.
Either way, Test C test E there will be ppl say they tell a difference but I reject that idea. It's all in the head so it really don't matter bro, take and order you some GSO and when you suck up a cc of the 400 suck about 3/4 cc of the GSO in with it and heat it under the hot sink water and flick it... pin it for pain-free injection.

 

[JWS77]

I have made 400 for 5 friends now and none of them could hack the pain!!! Good luck bro! Is it labeled gear from one of these UGL's??? If so then you might be okay cause if it says 400 you really got bout 300..... maybe! But if it is homebrew and there is a full 4 grams shoved into that little 10ml vial then get ready lol it will be tough.
Either way, Test C test E there will be ppl say they tell a difference but I reject that idea. It's all in the head so it really don't matter bro, take and order you some GSO and when you suck up a cc of the 400 suck about 3/4 cc of the GSO in with it and heat it under the hot sink water and flick it... pin it for pain-free injection.

It's labelled. Pain or no pain I'm gonna tough it out haha. Thanks for posting tho, was hoping you would. Have a look at some of the earlier posts in this thread and see if you can advise on HCG, and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose, Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and dose, and whether 400mg test EW versus 650mg EW test e/cyp mix is beneficial or should I just go with test 400 1ml EW? Is my Var in this cycle better used in the cut or bulk phase? thanks in advance bro.

 

[jackedandtanned]

200mg var ew isnt nearly enough...iv ran var @ 100mg ed bro

 

[JWS77]

200mg var ew isnt nearly enough...iv ran var @ 100mg ed bro

Really? ok well it's for more 10 wk cut phase and stacked with tren e pinned 300mg EW for 10wks. Does that matter at all? never ran tren e before.

 

[Pinnacle@Rep]

It's labelled. Pain or no pain I'm gonna tough it out haha. Thanks for posting tho, was hoping you would. Have a look at some of the earlier posts in this thread and see if you can advise on HCG, and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose, Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and dose, and whether 400mg test EW versus 650mg EW test e/cyp mix is beneficial or should I just go with test 400 1ml EW? Is my Var in this cycle better used in the cut or bulk phase? thanks in advance bro.

Get your 50 posts you need to PM and PM Cobra Strike. He is a god with proper Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) usage.

 

[Pinnacle@Rep]

Really? ok well it's for more 10 wk cut phase and stacked with tren e pinned 300mg EW for 10wks. Does that matter at all? never ran tren e before.

It's really hard to advise you on proper post cycle therapy (pct) and AI's because of your choice in cycle. I've known nobody who does 2 cycles in one. Normally (100% of the cycles I know of) are ran either bulking, lean mass, or cutting. Seems like you're doing bulking and cutting in the same and it's just weird to me. I'm not sure any other mods or vet on here will have a good answer for ya on this cause really IMO this should be two completely different cycles.

 

[JWS77]

It's really hard to advise you on proper PCT and AI's because of your choice in cycle. I've known nobody who does 2 cycles in one. Normally (100% of the cycles I know of) are ran either bulking, lean mass, or cutting. Seems like you're doing bulking and cutting in the same and it's just weird to me. I'm not sure any other mods or vet on here will have a good answer for ya on this cause really IMO this should be two completely different cycles.

I was going to run both cycles seperate with pct in between and one week off, but my guy who has been dealing and bb for 18yrs says I should just run a full 20wks with one week off in between bulk and cut and only one pct at the end of 20weeks. I wanted to incorporate the tren e and anavar into the same 10wks but the mg's would be high for my comfortability. I was also advised to not run aromasin for water retention because my cut cycle would remedy that anyway. for pct I have 100mg ED clomid for 30 days. I might go with 250iu hcg but not sure when to run it and for how long.

 

[Pinnacle@Rep]

I was going to run both cycles seperate with pct in between and one week off, but my guy who has been dealing and bb for 18yrs says I should just run a full 20wks with one week off in between bulk and cut and only one pct at the end of 20weeks. I wanted to incorporate the tren e and anavar into the same 10wks but the mg's would be high for my comfortability. I was also advised to not run aromasin for water retention because my cut cycle would remedy that anyway. for pct I have 100mg ED clomid for 30 days. I might go with 250iu hcg but not sure when to run it and for how long.

As for the HCG you would run it throughout the duration of ur cycle until PCT. Don't run it during PCT.
Like I said, I don't know who your guy is and this is new to me that you would go through 2 cycles in one and a week off there, just seems like to me at some point you're gonna get shut down.
Seems to me like you need to just run a lean mass cycle but normally tren is a part of that cycle and i'm not sure you have the experience to mess with that nasty shit! Tren is amazing but it is nasty!!! It can fuck your world up big time!!!!
Whoever your guy is i don't know bro but I can tell you this.... as long as you are willing to listen there are two guys here that I would bet my ass can get you closer to your goal and faster than your dealer/guy can A) Cause they don't want your money. B) Cause they both know about this game and look like they know about this game.

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