It could very well be a question of ps80. The thing is, you want the Winstrol (winny) to "crash" out of solution as quickly as possible. I think thats why the squirt method works well because the water has little time to get warm. I cant explain what I want to say easily, but I think the method I posted in the sticky will work ona cosistant basis. Ill be trying it tonight, so look for results.