What can I add to my Cyp only cycle to cut?.....

[diggermate85]

Hi guys!
Im cutting atm... 180cm, (5'11) 85kgs, 13.5% 29/male

Lifting for years... about 5 cycles under my belt.. Last cycle was Sus 750mg / NPP 600mg / Tren 400mg
Wasnt big on the tren though dont want to go back there.


I am in week 4 of a Test cyp cycle. First 4 weeks have been 500mg
Last night I just bumped it up so I will continue to the end of 12 weeks at 750mg.

Last 4 weeks ill add 80mg of var. (used var a couple of times before this seems to be a nice number for me )

so

1-4 CYP 500mg
4-12 CYP 750mg
8-12 Var 80mg

Running Arimidex during and I have HCG but havent felt the need to use yet.

I'm wanting to stack something else with the cyp...
Any suggestions?
I liked the NPP from last time but too much bloat in the face for me.
Really trying to eliminate as much water as I can.

Winny?

 

[Megatron28]

Diet.

Use your hCG too during your cycle. Don't wait.

 

[siq]

I remember one time I added in EQ towards the end and got great lean results. However, it was a much longer cycle, more like 18-24 weeks. Personally I'd recommend more than 12 weeks, 12 weeks is just barely when I start making big gains it seems...

 

[xplicid]

One of the buterols

 

[jozifp103]

since it's your 5th or 6th cycle, and assuming your diet is in check, i think Masteron would be a good addtition to this. Nice hardening, and drying effect and not as harsh on the body as winny.

 

[ADenver]

Add less food.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I would rec MAste

 

[China_Wall]

More protein, less carbs, cardio after ever lifting session...

500mg of test for 14-16 weeks is plenty enough to get lean on if your diet is sound... bumping up to 750 is not gonna do much in the way of leaning u out more (as I thought that was your goal)

Pick your poison bro... full on cut, or grow... In 12 weeks u CANNOT do both

 

[diggermate85]

More protein, less carbs, cardio after ever lifting session...

500mg of test for 14-16 weeks is plenty enough to get lean on if your diet is sound... bumping up to 750 is not gonna do much in the way of leaning u out more (as I thought that was your goal)

Pick your poison bro... full on cut, or grow... In 12 weeks u CANNOT do both

Cheers mate, yeah I am certainly not on the bulk wagon it's 100% cutting for me.
I just bumped up the test 250mg a week as I am used to doing a higher amount of test and 500mg isnt quite making me feel full enough.
I Think post lifting cardio is definitely the go. I'll start as of tonight.

 

[diggermate85]

So with Cardio....... What about this.. ( I have this at my fingertips so it's easy )

current in wk 4

1-4 Cyp 500mg
4-16 Cyp 750mg (Upped slightly as I found 500mg a little low for me. Always run higher test)
5-11 anavar 70mg ed.
10-16 winstrol (oil based susp ) 100mg eod

Running arimidex and HCG on.

Clomid / nolva for PCT

 

[China_Wall]

So with Cardio....... What about this.. ( I have this at my fingertips so it's easy )

current in wk 4

1-4 Cyp 500mg
4-16 Cyp 750mg (Upped slightly as I found 500mg a little low for me. Always run higher test)
5-11 anavar 70mg ed.
10-16 winstrol (oil based susp ) 100mg eod

Running arimidex and HCG on.

Clomid / nolva for PCT

winstol EOD is not effective, gotta be everyday

 

[Onk]

winstol EOD is not effective, gotta be everyday

for the injectable version, is it still ED pinning? I'm not sure on winny's ester so just wondering if it's like prop and that you CAN do it EoD, but people would be better doing ED

 

[China_Wall]

for the injectable version, is it still ED pinning? I'm not sure on winny's ester so just wondering if it's like prop and that you CAN do it EoD, but people would be better doing ED

no ester, so 50mg ed is a better option... but people have been running winny eod for decades, and with some effectiveness... I would say the most annoying thing about ed winny injects is the discomfort, and combine that with how creeky my joints get I'm no longer a fan

 

[J-Radical]

since it's your 5th or 6th cycle, and assuming your diet is in check, i think Masteron would be a good addtition to this. Nice hardening, and drying effect and not as harsh on the body as winny.

I would use mast as wel. Nothing as gotten me as lean and strong as masteron. The crazy libido boost is also awesome.

This is of course if you have your diet properly dialed in

 

[diggermate85]

I would use mast as wel. Nothing as gotten me as lean and strong as masteron. The crazy libido boost is also awesome.

This is of course if you have your diet properly dialed in

Mast, as well as winny?
I certainly dont want to over kill it...
Just something nice to add to test and var.

I have mate pinning BD winny oil eod and getting nice results. I'd be happy to pin it ed though.

What would be a nice amount of mast to run with the cyp? and for how long? - no experience with mast. Diet IS in check though. should be 10-11% within 4 weeks

 

[heyjack]

I would recommend a diet plan from 3J. That will help you tenfold compared to an additional compound.

 

[jozifp103]

Mast, as well as winny?
I certainly dont want to over kill it...
Just something nice to add to test and var.

I have mate pinning BD winny oil eod and getting nice results. I'd be happy to pin it ed though.

What would be a nice amount of mast to run with the cyp? and for how long? - no experience with mast. Diet IS in check though. should be 10-11% within 4 weeks

if he's agreeing with me then he means mast INSTEAD of winny. Mast will cut you up nice with a good diet, and is much easier on your body than winny. If it's your first run with mast try it at 500mg or so a week. It really shines at high doses but start at 500 because for many that is plenty.

 

[diggermate85]

I would recommend a diet plan from 3J. That will help you tenfold compared to an additional compound.

I have seen a lot of his clients results. Pretty awesome! however I fully trust the guy that is doing my diet. I dont want to name him but here in Melbourne he is very well known.
Just a quiet 295k Facebook followers and not easy to get time with. I'm lucky enough to secure him once per week indefinitely.

 

[J-Radical]

if he's agreeing with me then he means mast INSTEAD of winny. Mast will cut you up nice with a good diet, and is much easier on your body than winny. If it's your first run with mast try it at 500mg or so a week. It really shines at high doses but start at 500 because for many that is plenty.

Yes.. agreeing. Mast not winny.

 

[diggermate85]

if he's agreeing with me then he means mast INSTEAD of winny. Mast will cut you up nice with a good diet, and is much easier on your body than winny. If it's your first run with mast try it at 500mg or so a week. It really shines at high doses but start at 500 because for many that is plenty.

Ok awesome thanks jozifp103 !
I think I'll give mast a go! I see many good reviews on it, and I think my body fat atm being 13.5 and dropping nicely will see some good results.
Question - As I am in week 4 of my cycle, planning to do 14, would it be safe to run the mast until the end, possibly 2 weeks after I drop the cyp bridging into PCT?