what do u think of this program???

[abalnasr]

i will train every muscle twice/week
the first i will focus on the exercises that thicken the muscle (mass)
in the 2nd i will focus on the exercises that give the muscle width
what do u think ????

 

[koops2121]

what exercises are you doing?

 

[Frosty]

Doesn't mass cover muscle "width"?

 

[Mudge]

Mass is mass, width comes with mass.

 

[abalnasr]

i was told that for example when u train ur back with the bar
if u grip the bar with a close grip this give the back thikning
but if u grip it with wide grip this give it width
is this right ????

 

[blackbeard]

i can see this working for the back..but what would you do in the case of chest or legs??

 

[abalnasr]

for the cheast
the first day i will focus on the upper muscle
the second i will focus on the lower

 

[pullinbig]

aint but one pec per side. less you that UFC fighter who lost one in an auto wreck as a wee lad.

 

[Frosty]

aint but one pec per side. less you that UFC fighter who lost one in an auto wreck as a wee lad.

There is a clavicle and sternal portion of the pectoral.

 

[blackbeard]

aint but one pec per side. less you that UFC fighter who lost one in an auto wreck as a wee lad.

exactly..

 

[pullinbig]

There is a clavicle and sternal portion of the pectoral.

can you work one without the other?

since you wanna be technical which one is considered the chest muscle?

which one dwarfs the other one?

its one pec (major and minor) comprised of two muscles.

 

[abalnasr]

no one answerd my question
is it a good program to train muscle twice every time focusing on a diffrant part or this will be over traning ???

 

[pullinbig]

time will tell. give it a shot and see what happens. everyone dont respond the same to volume work.

 

[abalnasr]

thnx pullinbig

 

[Frosty]

can you work one without the other?

since you wanna be technical which one is considered the chest muscle?

which one dwarfs the other one?

its one pec (major and minor) comprised of two muscles.

You'll work both generally with any chest workout, but you can recruit the clavicle portion more with incline position. Just put your hand on the clavicle portion, then put your arm in the decline bench position and flex the pectoral. Then do the same in the incline position. Which recruits the clavicle portion more?

Both the clavicle and sternal portion are considered the chest.

The sternam portion is larger.

The pectoral major is made up of the sternal and clavicle portion. The pectoral minor is a totally different muscle that serves a different function.

 

[70w30]

wow

 

[Frosty]

wow

I'm beginning to understand why you have over 21 posts per day.

 

[pullinbig]

You'll work both generally with any chest workout, but you can recruit the clavicle portion more with incline position. Just put your hand on the clavicle portion, then put your arm in the decline bench position and flex the pectoral. Then do the same in the incline position. Which recruits the clavicle portion more?

Both the clavicle and sternal portion are considered the chest.

The sternam portion is larger.

The pectoral major is made up of the sternal and clavicle portion. The pectoral minor is a totally different muscle that serves a different function.

they cannot be worked seperately. impossible. sure you can emphasize one more than the other but thats not what i asked.

i guesss my antonmy book and yours a different. mine clearly states that the pec minor is the clavical portion. it also states that the pec major is considered the chest muscle.

dosent matter though. books is books and experience is experience. this guy wanted to know about his routine.

 

[blackbeard]

could you work the left pec one day then the right pec the next day??? this discussion is pretty lame..
abal-
i think PB pretty much answerd your question..there is no way to separate your upper pec or lower pec, the lng head of the tri, the side delts from the front delt., or the vastus from the rest of the quad..sure there are exercises that hit these with a little more emphasis which should be included in a well rounded routine..

 

[Frosty]

they cannot be worked seperately. impossible. sure you can emphasize one more than the other but thats not what i asked.

This is what I said:

"You'll work both generally with any chest workout, but you can recruit the clavicle portion more with incline position."

I did not say you can work one without working the other.

i guesss my antonmy book and yours a different. mine clearly states that the pec minor is the clavical portion. it also states that the pec major is considered the chest muscle.

No, that is wrong. The pectoral minor doesn't even touch the clavicle. It goes from the ribs up to the scapula.

The clavicle portion of the pectoral major begins at the clavicle then extends to the humerus. The sternal portion of the pectoral major begins at the sternum and extends to the humerus.