What else with Eca stack?

[APLafata11]

Hey everyone im just curious on what to take with the Eca stack. I heard about Ketotifen and Benadryl but dont know too much. You i take anything for a PCT like Benadryl? If anyone can just give me a bit of an insight it would be much appreciated. Thanks

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

You dont need anything to run alongside the eca stack. Always start with a 1 pill once a day & then slowly build it up to 3 times a day over the course of 2 weeks. This will help assess your tolerance & avoid serious sides.

Ketotifen is used mainly for clen users who want to stay on a cycle for a long period of time. Studies show that an eca stack continues to be effective as a thermogenic (fat burning) even if you use it long term. However, some of its other benefits, like suppressing your appetite, do fade away in 2 weeks or so. If your using it as a thermogenic you dont need to cycle it, but for the other benefits you may want to go 2 weeks on/off. No need for pct.
You can also use benadryl if you have sides like lack of sleep for example, but its not essential. You can avoid this side by not taking within 6 hours of going to bed. When I was on it, I slept less but still felt great in the morning.

Hope this helps, any other questions just fire away.

 

[Squatter13]

Good info from Mrrippedzilla. I never mix it with anything else intentionally. (But I do take creatine, multivitamin, DAA etc on the same days)

If I can add further:
Start small. Test to see your reaction to it.

I started with 200mg caffeine and 1 single 8mg dose of ephedrine. Then tried 16mg the next day. Then tried 24mg (and never exceeded).

I never dose closer than about 4.5 to 5 hours apart. I try for 7:30 AM, 12:00 noon and then 4:30/5:00 when I'm leaving work. I even question the last dose these days as it has caused some disruption in my sleep.

I have never dosed more than 72mg of ephedrine in a day. I'm a 30 year old healthy male.

One of the great side effects is the concentration/focus. I never knew this would happen. I feel mentally present in a very rewarding way (any mental task I'm on point with). Had I known this came with it -- I would have used it for this reason alone and not even the thermo and appetite suppressant aspect.

I try 2-3 weeks on, 1-2 weeks off. Not for any scientific or peer-reviewed reason, but I find the potency seems to wear after 3 weeks for me. When I resume using it, it's like the first time all over again (lol) and I fall in love with it. It definitely kills your appetite. The thermo part is funny - I found myself getting warm quite a bit

I try and drink lots of water and be careful not to push my body too much. I won't do strenuous work while using it, and give myself at least 4 hours between a preworkout stim and an ECA dose.

Best of luck with it.

 

[APLafata11]

Do you think it would be a waste to take with compound 20?

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Do you think it would be a waste to take with compound 20?

I've seen the ingredients in compound 20, pretty much overpriced & overhyped bullshit. As a note for the future, most so called fat burners/pre workouts now contain caffeine (good) and a bunch of other ingredients that are average at best. So yes, taking compound 20 is a waste in general, not just with an eca stack.

In the future bro for these sort of products, unless they contain ephedrine, synepherine, sibutramine, yohimbine or 1dmaa - your wasting your money. Thats not just my opinion, its a fact - they're not even 10% as effective without those ingredients.

 

[APLafata11]

I've seen the ingredients in compound 20, pretty much overpriced & overhyped bullshit. As a note for the future, most so called fat burners/pre workouts now contain caffeine (good) and a bunch of other ingredients that are average at best. So yes, taking compound 20 is a waste in general, not just with an eca stack.

In the future bro for these sort of products, unless they contain ephedrine, synepherine, sibutramine, yohimbine or 1dmaa - your wasting your money. Thats not just my opinion, its a fact - they're not even 10% as effective without those ingredients.

Im trying to tone up a bit with the eca and im looking for something to help give my some size again and strength. Im trying to stay as Natural as i can for awhile. Any suggestions?

If anyone has any advice feel free to tune in for your opinion Please!

 

[jmaresca]

ECA by itself bro. You don't need anything else. Just don't run it for longer than 8 weeks straight. Your adrenals need to recup. Always give yourself at least 4 weeks in between any 8 week cycle of ECA. I used ECA as my fat burning reg last summer and it kicked ass. Good luck to you bro.

 

[jmaresca]

If you are looking to bulk with ECA are you going to take any gear?

 

[jmaresca]

I just remembered (after my posts) that you can throw in clenbuterol. A clenbuterol/cytomel stack kicks ass too but never stack cytomel with ECA. Thats a super heavy work load for your thyroid. I threw in clen with my ECA. I pretty much had to go that route because I am allergic to cytomel (T3). Found out about 9 years ago when I did my first clen/cytomel stack. I broke out in hives.

 

[APLafata11]

I just remembered (after my posts) that you can throw in clenbuterol. A clenbuterol/cytomel stack kicks ass too but never stack cytomel with ECA. Thats a super heavy work load for your thyroid. I threw in clen with my ECA. I pretty much had to go that route because I am allergic to cytomel (T3). Found out about 9 years ago when I did my first clen/cytomel stack. I broke out in hives.

My problem is i want to try and compete naturally in the next few years so i cant take either of those. im looking for something more natural as pussy as that sounds.

 

[jdenny]

I just remembered (after my posts) that you can throw in clenbuterol. A clenbuterol/cytomel stack kicks ass too but never stack cytomel with ECA. Thats a super heavy work load for your thyroid. I threw in clen with my ECA. I pretty much had to go that route because I am allergic to cytomel (T3). Found out about 9 years ago when I did my first clen/cytomel stack. I broke out in hives.

Weight control is no doubt a problem that affects people all over the world. ECA stacks can be taken with multivitamin complexes, fish oils and ECCG, with Creatine, these supplements being concerned with weight loss. The other option is Clenbuterol, because it for quick weight loss.