What happens why you do 2 or 3 cycles, and never cycle again?

[bryan89]

I am just wondering. Lets say I do a Test e only cycle, 2 or 3 times.


What happens if I never do another cycle again, but continue to do the same intense workouts? Will all the gains I made on those cycles, go away slowly over time? Will I eventually end up looking the same as I would natty? Basically, if I do not intend to keep juicing for the rest of my life, is doing this a waste?


Also, 2 side questions.

Do I need Arimidex on a test cycle if I already have nolva and clomid?

If I get test e, nolva, and clomid. How long do they last? Like, if I bought them now to use a couple months from now, would they still be good?

 

[clsmth700]

you can keep gains with proper diet and training, so these cycles will contribute to overall growth and strength increase.

thats why it is so important to optimize diet before juicing !

u can have armidex on hand but you dont necessary run it until u get gyno type symptoms, you may never get them

some guys are prone to all sides and some not just depends, are you lean? do u have natural high bf ? low test?

if so you may be more prone to gyno

 

[clsmth700]

btw u have gear & post cycle therapy (pct) already ? what lab?

age, stats

 

[bryan89]

btw u have gear & post cycle therapy (pct) already ? what lab?

age, stats

no i dont have the gear yet, planning to in a month or 2. I am 22, 5 10 , 185. been lifting for 3 years. I have platued and want to go further.

 

[bryan89]

you can keep gains with proper diet and training, so these cycles will contribute to overall growth and strength increase.

thats why it is so important to optimize diet before juicing !

u can have armidex on hand but you dont necessary run it until u get gyno type symptoms, you may never get them

some guys are prone to all sides and some not just depends, are you lean? do u have natural high bf ? low test?

if so you may be more prone to gyno

thanks. No I dont have high bf, and I dont know my test numbers. Do I need to get blood work done? How much does that cost?

 

[MAXCURLS]

Depends on your training and diet. If you eat to maintain the weight and keep lifting then you will be able to keep the gains.
If you gain alot of muscle way outside your genetic potential it will be hard to keep all of those gains. If you do one longer cycle a year for three years you will be able to recover better than trying to jam two-three short cycles in one year. Make sure you have your post cycle therapy (pct) on point.

 

[clsmth700]

well low bf can be a good indicator for less sides ...

whats is your diet like ? - how many calories you eating?

 

[clsmth700]

Do I need to get blood work done? How much does that cost?

not necessary before cycle but maybe during and yes after post cycle therapy (pct) you should , as low as 50 bucks

or have your md do it if u got insurance

 

[MAXCURLS]

It will be the best 50 bucks you spend if you run into low test or other problems later. I would love to have my base line before taking anything.

 

[clsmth700]

yes not a bad idea , i did this personally

but many younger bros dont get labs at all, so i start with at least telling them to get them post cycle to make sure they dont have major issues with hpta

It will be the best 50 bucks you spend if you run into low test or other problems later. I would love to have my base line before taking anything.

 

[bryan89]

well low bf can be a good indicator for less sides ...

whats is your diet like ? - how many calories you eating?

all clean food only. I am currently cutting on Keto. 2300 cal on off days, 2600 work out days

 

[donjob]

no i dont have the gear yet, planning to in a month or 2. I am 22, 5 10 , 185. been lifting for 3 years. I have platued and want to go further.

you don't need gear just because you're trying to bust through a sticking point. just ask dave tate. train smarter bro. i'm not telling you to not do steroids (because i do and was no where near my max genetic limits when i did), but i'm not encouraging it either. 3 years of training, your gains are gonna stall and slow down. expect it