What has been your best cycle for size gains?

[oprahwinstrol]

So i am on brink of an order, but wanted to get some advice guys

Had four previous cycles, all have been sus and dec based, more recently with dbol.

Results have been steady. Currently 191lbs, about 8% bf, 37 yoa, 5'11.

I am wanting to try something new, obviously looking for better size than sus/dec has given and am ready for a bit more kick. Hearing good things about Equi, Tren and Test E.

So here is the question- What have been your best intermediate level stacks that you could recommend for size gains?

Have traditionally run HCG, A-dex and then Clomid/Nolva as PCT.

 

[Austinite]

Testosterone only without a doubt, for LBM gains. It's more a muscle builder than a cosmetic builder like most others.

 

[oprahwinstrol]

Thanks for that.

Sus and dec would be a good approach still then, had 500mg and 400mg a week over 12 week period previously.

Is there something test based that packs more punch?

 

[Austinite]

Ah yes, of course. Deca. Great compound. Can't really go wrong with Test and Deca.

Not sure what you mean by "test based". You mean a mix?

 

[oprahwinstrol]

Yeah it has been good to me!

Sorry, yes as in a mix. Really want to strap on good honest muscle mass over a twelve week period. I thought there maybe a more creative approach than the sus and dec mix I have employed previously. If not, is it worth upping the amount?

 

[Austinite]

I would avoid mixed compounds. No matter how you dose it, you'll never have control over the ratios.

 

[oprahwinstrol]

I would avoid mixed compounds. No matter how you dose it, you'll never have control over the ratios.

So just deca alone then, Is that what you mean?

 

[Austinite]

no, I mean test and deca. What I was referring to is the multi-compound vials.

 

[oprahwinstrol]

Fair enough, well better the devil you know then it would seem. Had read thst test e and nandrolone were good for bulking (on a bulking cycle thread) - although tbh not sure i could get the latter easily.

 

[Austinite]

I just noticed your username. Funny.

 

[oprahwinstrol]

Austinite you have been enormously helpful. Thank you ;~)

 

[Austinite]

You're very welcome.

 

[Mad- scientist]

testosterone only cycles... the best for bulking. So than I assume that the dosages would have to be pretty high for a test only cycle to beat something like a test deca and dbol stack.

 

[notdorianyates]

What dosage could be run on a test only cycle to get big gains (eg running sus and dec by its self)? I know dbol is a lot of water retention and that at least some gains are lost, but wouldn't it still contribute some gain that sus and dec on their own wouldn't? Seems surprising that omitting would benefit!

 

[3J]

your four cycles in.. drop the deca and run tren

 

[notdorianyates]

Nice advice, run tren alone or alongside sus do you think? I usually run a 12 wk cycle.

 

[3J]

never run tren alone... test and tren

Nice advice, run tren alone or alongside sus do you think? I usually run a 12 wk cycle.

 

[halfwit]

never run tren alone... test and tren

OM NOM NOM. Sounds like someone's going to bust out the dancing shoes and have a tango with Lady Tren. Just be sure to know what you're getting into OP. Tren definitely has some sides unique to the compound that can take one by surprise.

 

[3J]

i agree with halfwit.. dont just jump into it.. research.. we have a wonderful search tool on the top right corner that can be very useful

OM NOM NOM. Sounds like someone's going to bust out the dancing shoes and have a tango with Lady Tren. Just be sure to know what you're getting into OP. Tren definitely has some sides unique to the compound that can take one by surprise.

 

[notdorianyates]

OM NOM NOM. Sounds like someone's going to bust out the dancing shoes and have a tango with Lady Tren. Just be sure to know what you're getting into OP. Tren definitely has some sides unique to the compound that can take one by surprise.

Lol, yes Lady Tren has switched on the red light! Will have a really close look at tren first HW, and would run alongside sus (it is the only exp I have had of test). Read some feeds on agression when on tren, as well as the usual potential downs (hair loss etc). As ever HW your input is massively welcome.

Thanks for jumping on the thread and adding a new mixer into the coctail!