What have I done..

[juced_porkchop]

never cun a 17 akyl oral steroud longer then 4-8weeks unless its var "10-14"
drink lost of water and i realy hoe you kneo what the fuk post cycle therapy (pct) is or your realy fuked.

 

[sean usmc]

brother ...lesson learned..you are gonna be fine like they said earlier those are low doses...not like u were taking 100mg of anadrol a day now...but good step and in the right direction here with us...

 

[Sight]

Let's hope so. Going to play this safe visiting a doctor tomorrow for some blood-test just to be sure. Sort of self-punishment for doing something stupid, telling the doctor what the hell I've been doing.

I can't believe some of my friends have been doing this for years with so little knowledge. One of them have kids now so that is good news haha.

 

[zephyrdaz]

Don't tell the doctor what you've done just get the blood tests, but you'll be fine.

Get the Nolva as soon as you can!!

Stick to 15mg a day (split the does through the day) until you get the Nolva (tamoxifin) for PCT, don't get test booster, it'll be useless. When you get the Nolva take it at these doses:

wk 1-2 40mg nolva
wk 3-4 20mg nolva

and don't do it again!!

 

[Sight]

Don't tell the doctor what you've done just get the blood tests, but you'll be fine.

Get the Nolva as soon as you can!!

Stick to 15mg a day (split the does through the day) until you get the Nolva (tamoxifin) for PCT, don't get test booster, it'll be useless. When you get the Nolva take it at these doses:

wk 1-2 40mg nolva
wk 3-4 20mg nolva

and don't do it again!!

The doctor can't arrest me for it and he could probably give me something like nolva straight away ? Also, why 15mg and not something like 5mg ? Just wonder. I'll write down your Nolva dosage.

From what I've read here it can be hard to rely on that the medications will get through, since its illegal. Any experience here?

 

[zephyrdaz]

If you report it, it on your medical history for life, that can effect you medical and life insurance and all sorts !!!

Nolva is cheap, you can get it from one of this sites sponsors if you in the US, researchology (yellow banner at the top of this page), or from whereever you got the dbol.

Just do the 15mg, and split the dose to keep your blood levels a bit stable at least.

The Nolva dosages are every day, 40mg every day and so on. Do the full post cycle therapy (pct)

Something about post cycle therapy (pct) here

- post cycle therapy (pct) Protocol - Steroidology.com

 

[Sight]

If you report it, it on your medical history for life, that can effect you medical and life insurance and all sorts !!!

Nolva is cheap, you can get it from one of this sites sponsors if you in the US, researchology (yellow banner at the top of this page), or from whereever you got the dbol.

Just do the 15mg, and split the dose to keep your blood levels a bit stable at least.

The Nolva dosages are every day, 40mg every day and so on. Do the full post cycle therapy (pct)

Something about post cycle therapy (pct) here

- post cycle therapy (pct) Protocol - Steroidology.com

Living in Scandinavia so not sure how easy it is to get em here but atleast I'll try.

So 15mg a day is my best alternative you say. I really want to cut down as much as possible on this but.. you know more about this than me. Does anybody share a different view on my daily dose (15mg) from now on ?

 

[zephyrdaz]

You can always just bite the bullet and stop taking it dead, you'll probable be fine, maybe a bit emotional for a couple of weeks but you'll get over it probably. Doubt you've done any real damage as the dosages were low.

 

[Sight]

You can always just bite the bullet and stop taking it dead, you'll probable be fine, maybe a bit emotional for a couple of weeks but you'll get over it probably. Doubt you've done any real damage as the dosages were low.

I'll try to do something right from now on lol. So 15mg a day is consider low ?

Shit, can't decide.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Let's hope so. Going to play this safe visiting a doctor tomorrow for some blood-test just to be sure. Sort of self-punishment for doing something stupid, telling the doctor what the hell I've been doing.

I can't believe some of my friends have been doing this for years with so little knowledge. One of them have kids now so that is good news haha.

if you tell doc about using steroids illegaly you may be screw if you every try to get medcial insurence or life insurence.

dont do it unless its a cool doc you know that wont wright it down. or life or death. just tell em you been drinking and you are stopping but want ot check liver and blood.

 

[juced_porkchop]

The doctor can't arrest me for it and he could probably give me something like nolva straight away ? Also, why 15mg and not something like 5mg ? Just wonder. I'll write down your Nolva dosage.

From what I've read here it can be hard to rely on that the medications will get through, since its illegal. Any experience here?

your doc WILLNOT give you nolva lol even if you tell him. order it from a chem lab pm me i can send you links if you cant find.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I'll try to do something right from now on lol. So 15mg a day is consider low ?

Shit, can't decide.

i take 20-30mg only for first 4 weeks of a cycle.
if i was you drop it and get nolva or atleast only take 5-10mg for another week till you get the post cycle therapy (pct) .
very stupid but i hope you learned.

 

[Sight]

if you tell doc about using steroids illegaly you may be screw if you every try to get medcial insurence or life insurence.

dont do it unless its a cool doc you know that wont wright it down. or life or death. just tell em you been drinking and you are stopping but want ot check liver and blood.

I get your point but I'm not so sure about that, at least not here in Norway where the doctors cannot say anything about their clients to anybody not even the police. What can the doctor give me then ? Nothing ? He have to give me something lol.

I'm currently working on to locate someone nearby with this novla. Can't wait 2 weeks for it. Not to mention it has to pass the border too.

For some strange reason, I cannot sleep tonight lol

 

[juced_porkchop]

I get your point but I'm not so sure about that, at least not here in Norway where the doctors cannot say anything about their clients to anybody not even the police. What can the doctor give me then ? Nothing ? He have to give me something lol.

I'm currently working on to locate someone nearby with this novla. Can't wait 2 weeks for it. Not to mention it has to pass the border too.

For some strange reason, I cannot sleep tonight lol

umm yah in canada also we have thes laws
when going for life insurenc or med insurenc THEY WILL ASK YOU TO WHRIGHT OVER PERMISSIONS OF YOUR MED RECORDS!!!
i know what im talking about man.

you dont HAVE TO but you dont HAVE to get life insurance or med care eather. get my point?

they will tell you its up to you if you but thats there polacy to see recoreds of whome there insuring. they wont MAKE you but basicly you have to or you. you arnt following there policy they dont take you.


look you goign to have to order it .
lol or keep arguing with peopel that know what there talking about.

 

[juced_porkchop]

how old are you im curiouse?

 

[Sight]

umm yah in canada also we have thes laws
when going for life insurenc or med insurenc THEY WILL ASK YOU TO WHRIGHT OVER PERMISSIONS OF YOUR MED RECORDS!!!
i know what im talking about man.

you dont HAVE TO but you dont HAVE to get life insurance or med care eather. get my point?

they will tell you its up to you if you but thats there polacy to see recoreds of whome there insuring. they wont MAKE you but basicly you have to or you. you arnt following there policy they dont take you.


look you goign to have to order it .
lol or keep arguing with peopel that know what there talking about.

Yeah I do understand that, as I said I'm already huntin' for 'em so I can get them tomorrow with some luck.

Look, I'm not questioning any of you guys, I just want some (different) opinions. Look where my last "expert" advice got me

 

[Sight]

how old are you im curiouse?

Still 23

 

[inkpack4141]

5mg a day would be ok but the reason i think zeph is saying 15 is to keep stable blood levels by splitting doses. Taking 5 would be hard to split up throughout the day. Just go 10mg taken twice a day if you feel more comfortable doing that. I would suggest sticking with that until you have Nolva in your possesion. Just curious nobody has asked yet what are your gains like. What was your starting weight and strengths and what are they now? and dont lie if they arent a lot be honest we wont laugh at you

 

[Sight]

5mg a day would be ok but the reason i think zeph is saying 15 is to keep stable blood levels by splitting doses. Taking 5 would be hard to split up throughout the day. Just go 10mg taken twice a day if you feel more comfortable doing that. I would suggest sticking with that until you have Nolva in your possesion. Just curious nobody has asked yet what are your gains like. What was your starting weight and strengths and what are they now? and dont lie if they arent a lot be honest we wont laugh at you

Yeah was thinking of 10mg a day. Why on earth should I lie about my "gains" after all this? The last thing I'm worried about is people laughing at me on a online forum, don't you worry you're free to laugh I've gained 6-7 kg in weight and when it comes to strength on average maybe an 40% gain. So if I trained with 10kg before I now train with 14kg.But if that sounds too much (too little, I've no idea), I started out with pretty normal weights in the gym, nothing heavy at all. Truth told, my seize haven't increased dramatically compared to some of my buddies.

 

[inkpack4141]

I'm not sure why I said that. I guess it was because I was very interested in hearing your real gains so I said this to you so you would inform us of your actual gains and not feel like you needed to lie. Some people would feel they needed to lie so i dont know