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I see. I care more about my health than the money right now so guess I'm lucky. Nolva here I come. I haven't read about any known side-effect of nolva and only that I should not drink alcohol while eating those. Anything else to add ?
For the sake of discussion lol I talked to some old-school boys using the same steroids saying they've never used post cycle therapy (pct) !
Thanks again guys, I'm going to get those pills.
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So this is the dosage I'm aiming for. Read that 3-4 weeks was "normal" so zephyrdaz table seems ok, right ?
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
Take the price out of your post. Nolva is normally cheap!! did you tell this guy you were desparate for it?? you'll never make a salesman!!
A lot of people take gear with no conception of how to do it safely or the damage it can do, a lot of people with no clue do not bother with post cycle therapy (pct) that is correct. It does not make it right.I personally care more about my health and use steroids but not abuse them. These are not sweets.
Stop the dbol
Take the Nolva at these doses
wk 1-2 40mg ED Nolva
wk 3-4 20mg ED Nolva
I'd avoid alchohol, not because it effects the Nolva but it'll cause a rise in oestrogen which is what your trying to stop. Stick to the dose and do the full 4 weeks.
Any problems or questions come back here and ask.
And stay away from steroids!!
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
You can either do what I'm telling you or wait around waiting for someone to confirm what I have already told you to do again, as they have done all the other times!!
Fucking hell
Do the post cycle therapy (pct) AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 12 WEEKS AND ARE NOT PRODUCING YOUR OWN TEST.
I've been doing gear for 15 years, I know how to do a fucking post cycle therapy (pct)
Fucking hell
Do the post cycle therapy (pct) AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 12 WEEKS AND ARE NOT PRODUCING YOUR OWN TEST.
I've been doing gear for 15 years, I know how to do a fucking post cycle therapy (pct)
Thanks mate, I'll be trying your doses here.
Oh, someone know a good cycle for a second-timer ? I really want to gain alot of muscle before x-mas ! Advice needed
lolYou can either do what I'm telling you or wait around waiting for someone to confirm what I have already told you to do again, as they have done all the other times!!
Fucking hell
Do the post cycle therapy (pct) AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 12 WEEKS AND ARE NOT PRODUCING YOUR OWN TEST.
I've been doing gear for 15 years, I know how to do a fucking post cycle therapy (pct)
I just told you I'm getting those, didn't I
Well, if you see some sucker dropping by looking for advice on doing "gear" this thread could be a good read for how it feels getting caught up in some really deep fuckin' water without a clue. I have a feeling I'm not the last moron you'll see.
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
I just told you I'm getting those, didn't I
Well, if you see some sucker dropping by looking for advice on doing "gear" this thread could be a good read for how it feels getting caught up in some really deep fuckin' water without a clue. I have a feeling I'm not the last moron you'll see.
Your not a moron, just ill advised. At least you know you were doing it wrong, most of the donkeys who swan through here have no clue but think they know it all and only hear what they want to hear.
Good luck and if you have any question or problems then ask.
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Thanks, I just hope I'll manage to exit this properly without any damage to my body. 3 of my friends have used the same cure/dosage as me, 2 of them twice before, 1 ate it for a whole year (he flipped big-tine for a week and then stopped) and none of them have any known damage today , and they haven't even heard of pct lol. I just hope I'm as lucky as them.
I'm really uncomfortable eating more of this, but I guess its the best option, as you said, till I get some nolva.
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inkpack4141
Here to learn
Thanks mate, I'll be trying your doses here.
Oh, someone know a good cycle for a second-timer ? I really want to gain alot of muscle before x-mas ! Advice needed
Yes zephy's doese are correct. They are not what you MUST go by as everyone who runs the same pct's will sometimes alter the dosages slightly to what they feel they like best but this is a good one for you dont fret. Also you have to wait until you get done with the pct until you can start a new cycle but im sure you are well aware of that. It is said that time on = time off. If you do a 12week cycle and a 4 week pct that is 4 months so you should take 4 months off before doing another cycle. However i do not know if this goes hand in hand with just a dbol only cycle but im assuming it does. Maybe Zeph can chime in on this. I do not think it will matter though to start a test only cycle since your doses ere fairly low you'll be ok IMO. Therefore its too late to get huge before xmas my friend. You need to slow down here you havent even gotten your nolva yet after be all freaked out and now you are thinking about another cycle lol. Lack of knowledge is what got you in this predicament and probably a little impatience too. Anyways i'd recommend injecting 500mg of test e or c for your next cycle. 10weeks minimum but consider upping it to 12. RESEARCH my friend
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
Damage to the liver from oral steroids is over publicised on these forums and others. There are studies that show that liver enzymes can rise when taking them. But these studies have also shown that although this can be taken as a sign of liver damage it is more likely that the liver is just working harder. Long term use will probably cause permanent damage, but not the 12 weeks and the dosage you were doing it at. A few days more till you get the Nolva wont harm you.
I was more worried about your endocrine system, as you don’t want to be left with permanently low Test for the rest of your life. PCT is very important more so at you age as well.
I personaly don't have a problem with dbol or other orals when used as part of a cycle, I just don't like oral only cycles for other reasons
I was more worried about your endocrine system, as you don’t want to be left with permanently low Test for the rest of your life. PCT is very important more so at you age as well.
I personaly don't have a problem with dbol or other orals when used as part of a cycle, I just don't like oral only cycles for other reasons
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zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
I think he was joking about doing another cycle mate.
inkpack4141
Here to learn
Good and interesting info. Hopefully it is just the liver working harder without damaging itself
zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
I'll see if I can find some of the papers for you. Got them safe somewhere on my laptop
inkpack4141
Here to learn
Thanks bro i'd appreciate it if you cant find em dont sweat it. But if you do post em on here or PM me - Ink
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jonk430
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Good luck bro.... I am sure all will be well with those low dosages.
Great info, I kinda take it as "good news" considering my circumstances. Thanks for sharing it.
I hear you. Playing it safe by getting myself those nolva pills. Better safe than sorry !
On currently on my week 7 now and today I only took 10mg, as suggested.
Man, these two days have been a psychological nightmare from hell ! Feeling a bit better knowing that my life is safe and with those novla things are going to get ok, most likely.
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