What is a good routine for first cycle?

[goingtowin]

What is a routine to start during a cycle? I'm currently on icf 5x5 but starting my first cycle. I'm on test e 500mg/week

I've been told ICF 5x5 is not enough while you're on a cycle and I should do something else.. Anyone got any recommendations?

Anyone not familiar with ICF 5x5 it's a 5x5 (obviously) with added isolation movements to help hypertrophy as well. It's 3 days a week and each workout lasts about an hour or so..

 

[goingtowin]

Bump

 

[goingtowin]

Bump.. Not sure why no one is answering this..

Do you hate me? Why? I do everything for you?

 

[Roush]

What is a routine to start during a cycle? I'm currently on icf 5x5 but starting my first cycle. I'm on test e 500mg/week

I've been told ICF 5x5 is not enough while you're on a cycle and I should do something else.. Anyone got any recommendations?

Anyone not familiar with ICF 5x5 it's a 5x5 (obviously) with added isolation movements to help hypertrophy as well. It's 3 days a week and each workout lasts about an hour or so..

there are 120 hours in a week.. you only spend 3 hours of those working out ?

to be blunt,, I wouldn't expect much out of that little amount of effort

 

[goingtowin]

there are 120 hours in a week.. you only spend 3 hours of those working out ?

to be blunt,, I wouldn't expect much out of that little amount of effort

ICF 5x5 is a fantastic workout routine.... Regardless you didn't help me out at all. That's why i'm asking what IS good for a cycle. ICF is a A/B rotation 3 times a week yes.. if it's not enough for a cycle then inform me please. Could I maybe make it ABABAB rest? just bump it from every other day to every day? Or is that to much?

A-

Exercise Sets Reps
Squats 5 5
Bench Press 5 5
Bent Over Row 5 5
Barbell Shrugs 3 8
Tricep Extensions 3 8
Straight Bar or Incline Curls 3 8
Hyperextensions with plate 2 10
Cable Crunches 3 10

B-

Squats 5 5
Deadlift 1 5
Standing Press 5 5
Bent Over Row (10% lighter than Workout A) 5 5
Close Grip Bench Press 3 8
Straight Bar or Incline Curls 3 8
Cable Crunches 3 10

 

[luckypaul]

ICF 5x5 is a fantastic workout routine.... Regardless you didn't help me out at all. That's why i'm asking what IS good for a cycle.

A

Exercise Sets Reps
Squats 5 5
Bench Press 5 5
Bent Over Row 5 5
Barbell Shrugs 3 8
Tricep Extensions 3 8
Straight Bar or Incline Curls 3 8
Hyperextensions with plate 2 10
Cable Crunches 3 10

B-

Squats 5 5
Deadlift 1 5
Standing Press 5 5
Bent Over Row (10% lighter than Workout A) 5 5
Close Grip Bench Press 3 8
Straight Bar or Incline Curls 3 8
Cable Crunches 3 10

You asked and he gave you an answer. You don't have to like it, but don't get snippy.

I would continue what ever routine you are on. This is how you can see improvement from ped's. Stick to the basics. If you were an advanced lifter you would not be asking this question. Sorry to be blunt, but when a member asks for help and help is given, don't whine about the responce.

 

[Hypnotix]

Do 3J's reverse pyramid. It's in the training section. Focus on controlled reps and hypertrophy. No need to go balls to wall heavy on cycle.

 

[goingtowin]

You asked and he gave you an answer. You don't have to like it, but don't get snippy.

I would continue what ever routine you are on. This is how you can see improvement from ped's. Stick to the basics. If you were an advanced lifter you would not be asking this question. Sorry to be blunt, but when a member asks for help and help is given, don't whine about the responce.

Okay well both your answers conflict with each other. He's saying I won't see much results and you're saying stick to the same routine. This is why I asked this question. A lot of people say normal routine a lot of the times is not enough and you could benefit by increasing your workout. I'm simply looking for a routine that would be optimal.

I wasn't trying to be snippy in any way but my question wasn't really answered. He simply told me my current routine is not enough. Probably should have worded it better but no harm done.

 

[Roush]

Personally,, wither you are ON cycle of OFF cycle,, your diet and routine should already be optimized and in place, and the cycle is just there to enhance what you've already optimized .

however, I find that when blasting I definitely up my volume (not on purpose, just a matter of the compounds and my mental state are such that I just keep adding more sets and reps).
You'll be able to recover, and stay more anabolic / anti-catabolic while on cycle,, so 'over reaching' isn't usually a problem.

so, again I'd up your volume. Unless your workouts are so so so very intense (surpassing Dorian Yates style) that you nearly die after an hour 3 times a week. but, in general rarely is anyone gifted enough to work out that hard and intense,, that's why increasing the volume or time under tension is a simple step to take.

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

I like to do a 5x5 routine on cycle but I hit the gym 4 times a week. Upper body focused Monday and Thursday, lower body focused on Tuesday and Friday, and of course a shit ton of auxiliary work.

 

[goingtowin]

Personally,, wither you are ON cycle of OFF cycle,, your diet and routine should already be optimized and in place, and the cycle is just there to enhance what you've already optimized .

however, I find that when blasting I definitely up my volume (not on purpose, just a matter of the compounds and my mental state are such that I just keep adding more sets and reps).
You'll be able to recover, and stay more anabolic / anti-catabolic while on cycle,, so 'over reaching' isn't usually a problem.

so, again I'd up your volume. Unless your workouts are so so so very intense (surpassing Dorian Yates style) that you nearly die after an hour 3 times a week. but, in general rarely is anyone gifted enough to work out that hard and intense,, that's why increasing the volume or time under tension is a simple step to take.

Should I just add more isolation into it then? Maybe add some flys or cable flys for chest? Pull ups for back? I'm not going to mess with the 5x5s but maybe more sets of isolation?

 

[SoHo]

if you see results using program that then keep using it. however, i think the best routine is one written by yourself. what works for your body, what works for your schedule and what works for your mind... for example i dont like bent over dumbell rows, so i dont fucking do them. simple as that. but i'm not sure you have the experience to figure all that out yet.

im personally not a fan of routines. i like splits, a simple high volume 4-5 day split has always seemed to work best for me, and i always do random shit too.
i dont work out on a schedule these days because again, i listen to my body. sometimes i'll be done hitting chest, and i'll feel like doing shoulders.. so i'll do shoulders. or maybe it's a tuesday and i dont feel like working out so i wont work out (if it fits into my 2 off-day per week rule). maybe i'll feel like lifting heavy for a certain exercise or two, so i'll do that. i lift usually between an hour and a half - 2 hours btw.

what i'm trying to say here is; if you like doing the bread and butter split like back bis, chest tris, etc etc, DO THAT. if you like doing push/pull DO THAT. if you like doing the 3 day a week full body deal, do that!

 

[Milton]

This is a good read too http://www.steroidology.com/a-comprehensive-look-at-modern-aas-cycling/

 

[ronrr]

just workout like a beast and find out what works for you bro

 

[josephmc9181]

what are good legit sites to buy sus 250 or 300 from?

 

[ronrr]

dont buy online and dont ask on here

 

[SoHo]

what are good legit sites to buy sus 250 or 300 from?

it's so unbelievably easy to find gear online that there is absolutely no need to ask where to get it. look around, even on this very own website there are signs and fucking banners. open your eyes. as a matter of fact, i dont even think you should be using AAS.

if you can't set aside 30 minutes to look for a source, how the hell did you manage to research how to use anabolic steroids? anyone can say "yeah im gonna take 500mg of test" but i guarantee 100% that you dont know what the hell you're even gonna be doing throughout the cycle, or better yet WHY you are gonna be doing it. anyone can shoot some test into their ass cheeks but if you do not know basic science of how steroids work then you're gonna fuck yourself up.

fuck the workout plan you're so carefully planning, what's the hormone regimen you've got planned?