Theminatar
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Hey, new here. But what's an HCG alternative for orals? I don't want to inject....yet.
What's an Oral Alt for HCG?
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PrinceDianabol
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You need to man up and inject. Shouldn't be using gear without a test base..
Theminatar
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Lol that's what everyone keeps telling me lol. Mind if I get your opinion on something? I'm looking into running a first time cycle. Now What I've read and have been told is you need a test base with every cycle so you don't shut down your test production. So does that mean running this cycle isn't safe/smart? Or is that fine? Or should I throw some test in? I've also been told Test, DBol, and a pct would be fine too, like Arim or something.
Cycle Idea?
Dbol 30mg/day week 1-2
Dbol 40mg/day week 3-5
Dbol 30mg/day week 6
Nolva 10mg/day week 3,5,6
Clomid 50mg/day week 7-8
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http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html
Read this post. It will answer a lot of your questions.
Read this post. It will answer a lot of your questions.
Theminatar
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Thank you, much appreciated.
Theminatar
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Ok I read that but how come I never see any cycles with exemestane in it?
fitguy22
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how old are you? height weight? goal?
I'm doing a similar cycle but my dbol is injectable.
Week 1-12Test 500mg a week(split into 2 shots)
week 1-4 Dbol ED 30mg(inject)
Aromasin 12.5 ED
Hcg 750Ui a week.
Pct: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 30/30/20/20
no one will help you here unless if you give them something workable to work with.
I'm doing a similar cycle but my dbol is injectable.
Week 1-12Test 500mg a week(split into 2 shots)
week 1-4 Dbol ED 30mg(inject)
Aromasin 12.5 ED
Hcg 750Ui a week.
Pct: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 30/30/20/20
no one will help you here unless if you give them something workable to work with.
Theminatar
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I think I'm going to just run a test only cycle for now.
Megatron28
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Oral alternative for HCG would probably be a golden shower given by your pregnant girlfriend. Personally, I would get over my needle anxiety.
Theminatar
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I will. So would 10 weeks of test e 250mg twice a week show any results?
I am 190lbs ~13-15%BF at 20. I'll be running HCG with it and Arimidex. And for my pct's nolva and clomid.
Mprtz
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Fear of needles is one thing, but I have a feeling you (and many others who post this) want to avoid injection because it somehow seems less committing, less extreme or less hardcore.
If so, please be aware that this is misguided. If you really inform yourself about all the possible long term health consequences of starting AAS, you should come to realize that the delivery method (injection or oral) is the least of it.
Read the threads posted here by other 20 year olds before you make a final decision.
If so, please be aware that this is misguided. If you really inform yourself about all the possible long term health consequences of starting AAS, you should come to realize that the delivery method (injection or oral) is the least of it.
Read the threads posted here by other 20 year olds before you make a final decision.
Megatron28
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Your brain(endocrine system) and body are still developing. It is not wise to use AAS until that development is done. Wait until you are 25.
Take these advices seriously man, there are various studies why to not to do so.. just lurk around
Theminatar
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So should I wait to do test injections as well? I'm new to this stuff, not the training and dieting aspect, I've been religious with that for almost 2 years now.
Mprtz
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Yes, you should wait. 2 years is not that long in the scheme of things. You didn't list your stats (height, weight, bodyfat), but at age 20 you should be able to make a lot of progress naturally. Resist the temptation for instant results and take more time to learn about your body, diet, and steroids while you completely finish growing. At 20 your still in a spike of natural IGF-1 levels thats like being on growth hormone. Chances are your other hormone levels are great and you're super healthy. Why risk throwing that all away? Steroids will always be there.
Theminatar
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True, I did list my stats above.
I'm currently bulking but I'm:
5'9"
192lbs
13-15%bf
I have been religiously training for over a year and a half now. I was 152lbs @15%bf when I started, I then went to 175lbs @9-10% after clean bulking then cutting. And those above are my current stats. I've done sports all of my life, but I have never actually seriously lifted until a year and a half ago.
It's not that I want faster results, I want to see how far my body will go and how far I can succeed. I have seen what I can personally achieve from just hard work and dieting alone. Now I want to see what else I can make my body do. I want to step on stage and compete, and eventually get my pro-card. But if you still advise waiting, then I can do that and stick with proper dieting.
Also one other reason I want to be on test, and I know I should see a doctor about it. But at 20 I feel as if my sex drive is lower than it should be, I was taking a stack of test supps; T-Bomb 2+ 750mg Tribulus Gold+ 3,000mg of DAA and when I was doing that my sex drive was through the roof. But this issue is just a side thing. Wanting to push myself physically is my true intention.
Anyways off to the gym, I'll come back to this thread later today.
This was me last summer before I started my bulk, that was about 6 months of proper dieting and gym time. So I was about 175lbs then.
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Theminatar
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So honestly, what could happen if I did run test. Let's day I ran it perfectly with the proper pct cycle?
SilverBackGorilla
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I'd head over to another forum until you get the answer you want to hear.
Not to sound like a douche bag, but can you bench 315?
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