What's the big deal? 19y/o just fine after juice

[crushershockey]

very good post bro

and i agree with you 100% a lot of guys that start young are not emotionally ready for it. i have buddies who are 24 that on on sauce and can't even emotionally handle it. i have been fine with my cycling... i guess i'm just lucky...

 

[Incredible Mango]

I don't know what you guys are on about. I notice zero emotional difference.

BTW, 12 & 13 are good positions. 13 is a bit of a fairy position (from a forward's perspective ), but a hard headed crashball No.12 is a good asset on any team. There are two types of #12, the fleeting fairy footed nancy boy that wishes he was playing #10, or the hard-headed, straight and hard cannon ball. Just make sure you are the later bro.

 

[bleachcola]

Did anyone else catch the fact that the guy started at 165? Unless he's five feet tall and single digit bodyfat, that's entirely too small to be starting in on steroids. At that size you know nothing about diet or training. I love the part about "he studied Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) harder than he worked out." Well at 165, that doesn't say much brother. He could have easily put on much more size by staying natural and eating properly, especially at that age. Steroids were nothing but a cop-out for this kid who won't eat or train like a person who is serious about improving their appearance. I hope he dies and they make an HBO Families In Crisis episode about him.

 

[crushershockey]

Did anyone else catch the fact that the guy started at 165? Unless he's five feet tall and single digit bodyfat, that's entirely too small to be starting in on steroids. At that size you know nothing about diet or training. I love the part about "he studied Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) harder than he worked out." Well at 165, that doesn't say much brother. He could have easily put on much more size by staying natural and eating properly, especially at that age. Steroids were nothing but a cop-out for this kid who won't eat or train like a person who is serious about improving their appearance. I hope he dies and they make an HBO Families In Crisis episode about him.

who started at 165??



and i am definately the hard headed punch through guy lol... that's why my club loves me to much... i usually play 3 games in a row .. 3rds 2nds and 1sts on game days cause they love how i can punch the ball through and close to the tri zone... i rarely play 13 and when i do they always end up putting me onto 12

 

[David Gilmour]

who started at 165??

read the first post..

Did anyone else catch the fact that the guy started at 165? Unless he's five feet tall and single digit bodyfat, that's entirely too small to be starting in on steroids. At that size you know nothing about diet or training. I love the part about "he studied Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) harder than he worked out." Well at 165, that doesn't say much brother. He could have easily put on much more size by staying natural and eating properly, especially at that age.

 

[Chicken Legs]

One thing I love about people on boards "don't start unless you're at 200 pounds" His body was far more developed at 165 than many many people on here. His body fat was an amazing 4% and he has a 28 inch waist... do you know what a 200 pound guy with 4% body fat and a 28 inch waist looks like? Some people are just naturally smaller... sure people with 20% body fat are at 200 pounds but does that make them better for aas? No. Body weight itself has nothing to f'n do with it, muscular devlopment does. He started training as the skinniest kid in high school at under 100 pounds and left one of most developed. You can't automatically asume because most people know nothing about dieting and training that everyone doesn't. So he knows nothing about training yet benched 315 at 148 pounds clean and jerked 295 in competition while never touching a steroid. So beachcola take your mr.knoweverythingabouteveryone comment and shove it... Your apology for a ridiculously stupid judgement has been accepted.

 

[Behemoth]

Uh... you do realize that to have more muscular development, you have to be heavier, right? At 165, a person is carrying a negligible amount of muscle mass, unless they are short. Personally, I reached 220 at !5% before I started using steroids. Yeah, I wasn't ripped, but I had a lot more muscle than the 165 lb guy AND I knew how to eat and train well enough to make the most of the steroids I planned on using.
Oh, did I mention that I used to be the skinniest kid in school as well? Just like your buddy in the example (who is probably secretly you) so that doesn't really matter all that much from my perspective.
I think the main reason some of us get angry when we hear about idiots like this is because a lot of us care about our bodies and endeavor to improve ourselves using steroids in a healthy way... when we see some kid who is basically a beanpole, not even fully matured yet using gear to try to attain in a matter of a couple months what many of us attained naturally, through hard work, it does piss people off.

But whatever. I'm not the one who's going to have to deal with all the health problems this kid could possibly face when he gets older, if his careless attitude toward his body continues.

 

[Chicken Legs]

Personally I wont touch the shit 'til im 24 or so just because im playin it safe.. just trying to get educated and educate others. Steroids period are a quick fix pill or whatever was said. Steroids themselves are the 'easy way out' everyone can obviously gain naturally for a long period of time.. much past our 20's when we do take them. It's just the fact that if they're takin right they're safer than if they weren't. I just don't understand how his body can go bad 20 years from now if there is nothing wrong now. If his levels are back to normal what would cause anythign negitive from happening except for more gear? That is my question, not a rhetorical one either, looking for information on how gear can effect you 10 years down the road if everything is back to normal a year after your cycle.

 

[worldknown]

Wow, you might as well have said the most idiotic statement i have ever heard of. I know a few people, that ar enot only under 170, one being 148 and these guys have 10x the muscle that most (i mean 99.9%) of these 200 lb dudes weigh. So you behemoth are a fucking idiot for your statement, i guess you just haven't seen dudes that have alot of muscle and not alot of fat, i mean shit with 19 inch arms at 148lbs your pretty fucking big,bigger than your ass for sure, not to mention probably look 100x better. Id rather be less weight and look bigger. no one cares bro that you were 210lbs with 5% body fat dawg, i mean absolutely no one cares why try and brag? I bet tehse guys at 150lbs look alot leaner and meaner than you.

Uh... you do realize that to have more muscular development, you have to be heavier, right? At 165, a person is carrying a negligible amount of muscle mass, unless they are short.

 

[Behemoth]

worldknown, you need to post some pics to back that shit up. Are you seriously saying you know a guy who is 148 with 19 inch arms and he is NOT short? Or did you just not read what I wrote. I said quite clearly that at that weight, you are barely carrying anything unless you are short. Oh, looking at something else you said, obviously you are incapable of reading. Where did I say 210 lbs at 5% bodyfat? I said 220 at 15%, pretty large difference there, bud. How is that bragging? 220 at 15% isn't very big at all, especially at 6'1.

So anyway, post these pics of a guy who is 148 and somehow, against all laws of physics and biology, somehow carrying 10 times the muscle of a guy who is 200 lbs and also works out.

 

[worldknown]

Do you think im making this up for pure enjoyment. And i dont giv ea shit about your stats cause it has nothing to do with me or would i ever care about looking at another dude, all i care about is my physique. And yes both of these guys are short, but it doesn't matter, they still are fucking massive at a small weight (even for their height). To say that muscle and weight are positive correlated is only half correct. At 220 and 15% bf thats nothing to be proud of man, wouldn't you rather weight less and still be just as big? And don't ever ask me again to post pictures, not only are you a queer for asking me to post one of my buddies pictures, i'd never do that in my life, especially without their consent. Hell they dont even know im talking about them, but its the body i strive for. get that picture shit out of here you fukin circus clown, go beat your dick to a little kid on a roller coaster instead of trying to harass me for a picture of a buddy.

worldknown, you need to post some pics to back that shit up. Are you seriously saying you know a guy who is 148 with 19 inch arms and he is NOT short? Or did you just not read what I wrote. I said quite clearly that at that weight, you are barely carrying anything unless you are short. Oh, looking at something else you said, obviously you are incapable of reading. Where did I say 210 lbs at 5% bodyfat? I said 220 at 15%, pretty large difference there, bud. How is that bragging? 220 at 15% isn't very big at all, especially at 6'1.

So anyway, post these pics of a guy who is 148 and somehow, against all laws of physics and biology, somehow carrying 10 times the muscle of a guy who is 200 lbs and also works out.

Dude and where does the law of physics and biology have anything to do with having 19" guns at 148lbs? shit if were to have known this to be a science lession i probably would have gone to class today instead of listening to your ass preach.

 

[Trucker111]

wouldn't you rather weight less and still be just as big?

Contradictory statement here. I think you meant weigh less and have the same amount of lean body mass.

And don't ever ask me again to post pictures, not only are you a queer for asking me to post one of my buddies pictures, i'd never do that in my life, especially without their consent. Hell they dont even know im talking about them, but its the body i strive for. get that picture shit out of here you fukin circus clown, go beat your dick to a little kid on a roller coaster instead of trying to harass me for a picture of a buddy.

I don't even know where to start with this one. First, you sould like a sub-17 year old. Why shouldn't he ask for pictures? That is a pretty uncommon claim by you. All he did was as for some evidence. Believe it or not, it happens all the time on here. All he wanted you to back up what you claim.

And do you know this guy, or have you just seen him? If not, how do you know his weight and arm measurement?

It is not gay for him to ask for a picture of your "buddy". The rest of this quote is just a cop-out for you not having evidence and getting called out on it. I don't mean this in a flaming way, I'm just trying to get the points across in a less hostile way.

Dude and where does the law of physics and biology have anything to do with having 19" guns at 148lbs? shit if were to have known this to be a science lession i probably would have gone to class today instead of listening to your ass preach.

19" arms while weighing 148lbs is very uncommon, unless you only work arms. Even then it is still hard to do. He may have exaggerated here, but that's what he was trying to get across.

Cussing like that makes you sound very uneducated and completely wipes out any credibility you had before you posted that.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

i mean shit with 19 inch arms at 148lbs your pretty fucking big

Dude - unless hes 3 feet tall Im not buying this - what a waste of board space.

 

[worldknown]

dude first of all, i have no reason in hell to make up a person to people i dont even know on an ONLINE BOARD, i have no reason to impress you fools im just merely stating a fact. I dont know his biological breakdown, or how he does it. And you lost all your credibility trucker triyng to assume shit that isnt true. Saying he doesn't work his other body parts is definately the most retarded, yeh you read it, the most retarded thing ive ever heard come out of someones mouth. I could care less if you doubt me, and its not me so i have on reason to brag about nothing for nothing im just tellin you all how it is. And i guess you want to see a picture too trucker so you can beat your dick as well, but unlike you bro i dont have a passion for posting peoples pictures without their consent, not to mention i dont think he has ever taken a picture of himself. And as far as how do i know this guy, well i smoked blunts with this fool for many months. Im not making shit up for pure enjoyment on the internet, thats just retarded, i have no reason to try and impress any of you im just like i said tellin it how it is. do you happen to have any pictures trucker, i mean shit your all oppesses with this picture idea it would only make sense if you had your whole
album on here of your fatass.

 

[worldknown]

Dude - unless hes 3 feet tall Im not buying this - what a waste of board space.

and im not lying, ive seen him step on the scale to my amazement. He has been a boxer for quite some time, dude would obviously overpower anyone in his weight group. I'm not trying to make some shit to make you guys jealous or for whatever reason you happen to think, i just brought it up as a side note now all you guys want is his dick. god damn some people have awesome genetics. Im not gaining anything trying to lying to you guys thats what makes no sense to me.

 

[Chicken Legs]

hijackin the thread boys lets get back on topic

 

[Behemoth]

I don't feel like arguing about this. I'm a fag for wanting to see pictorial proof of a 148 lb guy with 19 inch arms? Whatever. Clearly this has nothing to do with the thread at hand, and even then, exaggerations that are obviously impossible (or very improbably anyway) don't help support any argument, ever.

 

[bleachcola]

One thing I love about people on boards "don't start unless you're at 200 pounds" His body was far more developed at 165 than many many people on here. His body fat was an amazing 4% and he has a 28 inch waist... do you know what a 200 pound guy with 4% body fat and a 28 inch waist looks like? Some people are just naturally smaller... sure people with 20% body fat are at 200 pounds but does that make them better for aas? No. Body weight itself has nothing to f'n do with it, muscular devlopment does. He started training as the skinniest kid in high school at under 100 pounds and left one of most developed. You can't automatically asume because most people know nothing about dieting and training that everyone doesn't. So he knows nothing about training yet benched 315 at 148 pounds clean and jerked 295 in competition while never touching a steroid. So beachcola take your mr.knoweverythingabouteveryone comment and shove it... Your apology for a ridiculously stupid judgement has been accepted.

But at the end of the day I still press dumbbells bigger than you and your little buddy. You obviously aren't here to receive advice so go back to studying for that calculus exam little kid.

 

[bleachcola]

dude first of all, i have no reason in hell to make up a person to people i dont even know on an ONLINE BOARD, i have no reason to impress you fools im just merely stating a fact. I dont know his biological breakdown, or how he does it. And you lost all your credibility trucker triyng to assume shit that isnt true. Saying he doesn't work his other body parts is definately the most retarded, yeh you read it, the most retarded thing ive ever heard come out of someones mouth. I could care less if you doubt me, and its not me so i have on reason to brag about nothing for nothing im just tellin you all how it is. And i guess you want to see a picture too trucker so you can beat your dick as well, but unlike you bro i dont have a passion for posting peoples pictures without their consent, not to mention i dont think he has ever taken a picture of himself. And as far as how do i know this guy, well i smoked blunts with this fool for many months. Im not making shit up for pure enjoyment on the internet, thats just retarded, i have no reason to try and impress any of you im just like i said tellin it how it is. do you happen to have any pictures trucker, i mean shit your all oppesses with this picture idea it would only make sense if you had your whole
album on here of your fatass.

You made the statement, the burden of proof lies with you. You expect us to buy every ludicrous statement made by some shithead newbie?

 

[Chicken Legs]

bleach not going to get in a war with you bro, any one who's educated on HOW the body can change from being perfectly back to normal a year after the cycle from going to needing 'hrt for the rest of your life 20 years from now' would you please speak your mind. I'd just like to know what change would make this happen.