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that's because you don't have veins and run on motor oil! Maybe if you obtained the Matrix of Leadership you'd be a bit stronger.
Why does PSL and this site have such a bad name on other boards?
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that's because you don't have veins and run on motor oil! Maybe if you obtained the Matrix of Leadership you'd be a bit stronger.
Repo
P.S.L. Representative
From my experience any bad reviews (from a good source) fall into several categories... this also
applies to any bad reviews on other boards
You really need to read - "into" - the reviews to really see if there is any merit to the statements!
When I first came to Ology I found several reasons for bad reviews that were on, what seem to be... "a good source."
Here's what I found with my trusted source.
There were a LOT of really good reviews - some on service - some on products - and some on correcting a
simple mistake - (people are human) - they fixed it.
Now here are common types of bad reviews - that I've personally seen for a very good company.
The 1st group - you have an industry where people who are new to this - and expect to look like Arnold overnight - the newbe.
The 2nd group - are on the edge of freaking out because they placed an order on a Saturday and haven't
heard anything by Sunday... or they cant function because the mail man hasn't shown them the love... a week after the order.
The 3rd group - are the people who work for someone and make up stuff - and this is key...
... what they are saying, contradicts everything about the positive reviews...
No one can be that good - and that bad... at the same time!
The 4th group - are people who post - bad information from hearsay - they are repeating
something they've read from 1, 2, or 3... Kind of what you're doing here, but you're just asking... that's ok.
It's also important to look at how they correct a mistake... did they take care of the customer - if yes... that's golden.
Here at Ology, they don't push PSL or anyone else for that matter... "they simply sponsor and support them."
- "Because they know their good to go."
applies to any bad reviews on other boards
You really need to read - "into" - the reviews to really see if there is any merit to the statements!
When I first came to Ology I found several reasons for bad reviews that were on, what seem to be... "a good source."
Here's what I found with my trusted source.
There were a LOT of really good reviews - some on service - some on products - and some on correcting a
simple mistake - (people are human) - they fixed it.
Now here are common types of bad reviews - that I've personally seen for a very good company.
The 1st group - you have an industry where people who are new to this - and expect to look like Arnold overnight - the newbe.
The 2nd group - are on the edge of freaking out because they placed an order on a Saturday and haven't
heard anything by Sunday... or they cant function because the mail man hasn't shown them the love... a week after the order.
The 3rd group - are the people who work for someone and make up stuff - and this is key...
... what they are saying, contradicts everything about the positive reviews...
No one can be that good - and that bad... at the same time!
The 4th group - are people who post - bad information from hearsay - they are repeating
something they've read from 1, 2, or 3... Kind of what you're doing here, but you're just asking... that's ok.
It's also important to look at how they correct a mistake... did they take care of the customer - if yes... that's golden.
Here at Ology, they don't push PSL or anyone else for that matter... "they simply sponsor and support them."
- "Because they know their good to go."
jozifp103
New member
Of course not Mega! Ology is my home...I learned everything and got my roots here. I know this place isn't like that. I was referring to "source" boards in particular. I should have been clearer and stated that only certain boards do this.
Megatron28
Moderator
Thanks Jozifp. I appreciate that. I also learned everything here as well. I am sure that most boards have lots of good people for members too. But just like anything in life, there will always be a few bad actors that act unscrupulously and give everyone a black eye.
Mrrippedzilla
MIA - PM only
I think it's important to point out that a moderator is almost NEVER going to receive bunk gear from a sponsored board.
There is a selective nature to this kind of thing and mods and/or vet members will rarely if ever get bad gear because it would be stupid from the sponsors POV.
The influence of a bad a review is much, much stronger coming from this group.
I'm not saying anything direct about PSL since I've never used them.
I'm simply pointing out that positive reviews given by mods mean next to nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Both on this and other sponsored boards.
There is a selective nature to this kind of thing and mods and/or vet members will rarely if ever get bad gear because it would be stupid from the sponsors POV.
The influence of a bad a review is much, much stronger coming from this group.
I'm not saying anything direct about PSL since I've never used them.
I'm simply pointing out that positive reviews given by mods mean next to nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Both on this and other sponsored boards.
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tury694
Pale Gorilla
Don't post those bloods at MesoRX they will say your gear is severely underdosed. BTW those are solid numbers for 475 mg test a week
Fist
New member
It really only matters what your experience is like. Forget the good and bad you here or you will always second guess any. You have to try and form your own opinion!
Megatron28
Moderator
All things being equal, you will see your Free T increase compared to where it was with the same dosage of just testosterone. Other than that, there is no way to tell with blood work. You have to go by feeling and symptoms.
PSL doesn't have a bad name. There might be a handful of threads created by rival competitors to steal business from us thats it.
I've helped way too many people when they were in need. Another thing is if anyones had a problem with their order it being lost, seized or it taking too long to receive. I make sure it gets replaced. We don't have a bad name. You are referring to maybe 5 threads on the internet made by people who want to steal our customers.
Thank you for asking. Send me a pm at anytime. I'm around ALWAYS!
I've helped way too many people when they were in need. Another thing is if anyones had a problem with their order it being lost, seized or it taking too long to receive. I make sure it gets replaced. We don't have a bad name. You are referring to maybe 5 threads on the internet made by people who want to steal our customers.
Thank you for asking. Send me a pm at anytime. I'm around ALWAYS!
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JimiThing
Moderator
This is based on one assumption, that there is pre communication before the order is placed. I ordered my PSL stuff without telling anyone I was going to be doing so. They have no idea who I am. I prefer it that way. That way if there are any issues there is no sense of obligation. Its human nature if your hooked up or taken care of to be nice. If you just purchase, on your own, then you maintain the ability to report true findings. Thats the way to do it IMO. Is it always done that way on all boards etc, of course not but thats how I like to do it personally.
Mrrippedzilla
MIA - PM only
Its refreshing to hear your approach Jimi
But there still remains a major issue even with this method...are you really going to make public that the gear was bunk/underdosed if bloodwork suggests it was?
I simply cannot see a moderator publicly criticizing a sponsor of the board - in fact, I don't recall this EVER happening without the moderator being banned, etc. Now of course if you let the lab know of the results they may indeed compensate you but, IMO, that simply doesn't justify the fact that the gear was bunk/underdosed in the first place.
Let me clear that I am NOT in any way focusing on specific moderators or boards, they are simply general comments based on what has happened historically.
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Its refreshing to hear your approach Jimi
But there still remains a major issue even with this method...are you really going to make public that the gear was bunk/underdosed if bloodwork suggests it was?
I simply cannot see a moderator publicly criticizing a sponsor of the board - in fact, I don't recall this EVER happening without the moderator being banned, etc. Now of course if you let the lab know of the results they may indeed compensate you but, IMO, that simply doesn't justify the fact that the gear was bunk/underdosed in the first place.
Let me clear that I am NOT in any way focusing on specific moderators or boards, they are simply general comments based on what has happened historically.
The mods here would ban Jimi if he tried to cover bunk underdosed gear. Which we do not have! Thats one thing to question the integrity of our company. But to question the integrity of the staff of Steroidology is another. If you are that worried the staff here is trouble. With all due respect, why do you continue to remain a member? I mean no offense. Simple question.
Mrrippedzilla
MIA - PM only
Excuse me?
Nothing about my posts were directed towards PSL in particular - in fact I CLEARLY stated that I've never used them so cannot comment.
Nothing about my posts were directed towards Jimi or Ology in particular - again, I CLEARLY stated that my comments were about sponsored boards and mods on them in general.
In fact I happen to get on very well with most of the mods on here, with regular correspondence through PMs about a variety of things.
So in future, you should read my posts carefully before making bullshit accusations towards me caused by your misinterpretation of what I said
All I know is there is always going to be people saying something is good that isn't and satin something is bad that is good. The world we live in is full of people who either bash people or lie about their products. Psl as far as I can tell has a good reputation and some upstanding people who have blood work to prove correct dosages. As far as mods in this board I think they are good guys that are looking to help everyone I don't think they would support a company that is selling bunk gear.
Excuse me?
Nothing about my posts were directed towards PSL in particular - in fact I CLEARLY stated that I've never used them so cannot comment.
Nothing about my posts were directed towards Jimi or Ology in particular - again, I CLEARLY stated that my comments were about sponsored boards and mods on them in general.
In fact I happen to get on very well with most of the mods on here, with regular correspondence through PMs about a variety of things.
So in future, you should read my posts carefully before making bullshit accusations towards me caused by your misinterpretation of what I said
I read your post wrong. I apologize. I am very sorry. I was saying the mods and staff here would not tolerate such behavior. I am so sorry you got offended. I didn't make an accusations towards you. My comments were based towards lurkers or readers in the thread, so that its understood by them that Steroidology has standards. I'm sorry.
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cybrsage
New member
Just so you two know (GOT and Zilla), I read both of what you guys posted and did not find offense in any of it. I got the impression that things were just being laid out for all to see - transparent like - and that no one was actually bashing anyone. No worries for either of you.
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Dirkmcgirk
New member
Only ordered from them once, but i had a good experience. You can tell by my history of post i definitely am not a shill for them.
