Will any of this be helpful or enhance cycle?

[Big-luke1]

The cycle is
Dbol 50mg 1-4
Test e 1-12
Aromasin 12.5 ED
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 25/25/25/25

Will any of these supplements be helpful or keep my hpta from shutting down? If so how?

Mucuna
L-dopa
DAA
GABA
LCLT

 

[Austinite]

We, as humans, have not yet developed enough to find/invent an anti-suppression drug. Nothing available today will prevent "shutdown".

 

[Big-luke1]

Yeah I see what u mean but HCG isn't garenteed to not let hpta shutdown but it certainly helps. So will any of these help?

 

[halfwit]

Yeah I see what u mean but HCG isn't garenteed to not let hpta shutdown but it certainly helps. So will any of these help?

Nope. Those are mostly testosterone "boosters" and will get the smackdown by exogenous test's effect on the negative feedback loop of the HPTA.


Oh, and everyone's different.

 

[Big-luke1]

Wait so ur saying it's bad? I read some threads saying DAA really helps from shutting u down

 

[halfwit]

Wait so ur saying it's bad? I read some threads saying DAA really helps from shutting u down

As Austinite said, we don't have ANYTHING that can prevent that, NOTHING. Anyone that says otherwise is trying to sell you something.

 

[Big-luke1]

Yes I understand that but people use HCG to prevent shutdown even though it's not garenteed, it's still worth it. So is DAA worth it?

 

[Austinite]

Yes I understand that but people use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to prevent shutdown even though it's not garenteed, it's still worth it. So is DAA worth it?

hCG does not prevent shut down. Not a chance. Nothing does. Are you sure you know what hCG is exactly?

 

[Big-luke1]

Yes it keeps your nuts pumping so basically it keeps your hpta from shutting down since it keeps you nuts workin so when u do post cycle therapy (pct) u can bounce back quicker

 

[Austinite]

Yes it keeps your nuts pumping so basically it keeps your hpta from shutting down since it keeps you nuts workin so when u do post cycle therapy (pct) u can bounce back quicker

No. Not even remotely close, luke.

Please read the following in their entirety, and then let me know if you still have questions...

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ocrine-system-effect-steroids.html?highlight=

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...mixing-administration-details.html?highlight=

 

[imdennis]

luke everyones different

 

[Big-luke1]

Thanks man, I read them both, deffinatly makes more sense. So it mimics the LH. I was confused about HPTA because halfwit told me that all the hpta was it what gets shut down during cycle. But when it's hpta the a is axis. So is the "axis" the growth plates that get fused together?

 

[Austinite]

Thanks man, I read them both, deffinatly makes more sense. So it mimics the LH. I was confused about HPTA because halfwit told me that all the hpta was it what gets shut down during cycle. But when it's hpta the a is axis. So is the "axis" the growth plates that get fused together?

Axis references an invisible correlation line between the hypothalamus, pituitary and testes. Where did you get growth plates from, brother?

 

[DreDay187]

Axis references an invisible correlation line between the hypothalamus, pituitary and testes. Where did you get growth plates from, brother?

This is a sleeper troll. Either that or comedic genius.

 

[Big-luke1]

I heard the reason some bodybuilders have a short torso is from taking AAS to early and growth plates fused. I guess that's from all the estrogen because in your one form u said side effects of high estrogen in males was early growth plate fusion

 

[Austinite]

I heard the reason some bodybuilders have a short torso is from taking AAS to early and growth plates fused. I guess that's from all the estrogen because in your one form u said side effects of high estrogen in males was early growth plate fusion

Huh? Luke, you're not making any sense. I never said that. I honestly think you should avoid cycling altogether. No offense, brother, but if basic knowledge explained in laymans terms is not getting through, you're setting yourself up for failure.

 

[Big-luke1]

In the thread u listen it said
Negative effect of high estrogen levels in males
Then it listed a whole bunch including one that said quicker growth plate fusion
Then it said side effects of low estrogen in males
It listed a bunch including slower growth plate fusion (younger males)

 

[Austinite]

Show me.

 

[Austinite]

Low Estrogen Side Effects

- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

High Estrogen Side Effects

- Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues
- Crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time

 

[Big-luke1]

Right here
Dangers of LOW Estrogen in Men for Extended Periods:

- Higher risk of bone fractures (Low bone mineral density)
- Slower growth plate fusing (younger males)
- Complete crash (fatigue, lethargy, depression, stress, etc..)