Will this damage my cycle gains?

[Cardiff_Muscle]

Hey bro's as some of you know Ive been running 400mg T/E everyweek for the last 10 weeks. Training and diet has been intense and Im very happy with the results so far.

However after this weekend Im feeling completely drained and I have a soreness in my neck which is playing on my nerves. (this is no training related). Off cycle during heavy periods of training every few months I would take a week off for a complete recovery.

Its been nearly 4 months since my last week break. I was thinking that with the additional intensity of my training on cycle that I could really do with taking this week off. I always seem to grow a little anyway and always feel fresh again.

However would this effect my cycle gains by not working out for a week? Would it be a waste? I would still take my shots as normal but have never done a cycle before an am not sure if it would be counter productive?

Cheers for the input bro's

 

[StoneColdNTO]

It will probably do you a world of good. I don't see any problem at all.

 

[Deepglute]

Hey bro's as some of you know Ive been running 400mg T/E everyweek for the last 10 weeks. Training and diet has been intense and Im very happy with the results so far.

However would this effect my cycle gains by not working out for a week? Would it be a waste? I would still take my shots as normal but have never done a cycle before an am not sure if it would be counter productive?

Cheers for the input bro's

Your muscle grow while away from the gym. Though you may be "very happy with your results so far", you obviously expected, and obtained too little.

Old
Bench - 264
Squat - 396
Dead - 308

400mg Test E
Bench - 286
Squat - 418
Dead - 352


Based on the very little progress who have made in your lifts, one must conclude that your training is all volume and thus not intense. Also one must conclude that as with most newbies, your calories consumption is too low.

On your currrent cycle, your bench should have gone up no less than 50 lbs., squat no less than 100 lbs.,and dead lift no less than 150 lbs. The gains you made could have easily been made Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) free with proper HIT training and adequate calorie consumption. I am sure my response is going to offend your pride, but swallow your pride for the sake of REAL SUCCESS!

 

[Old Balls]

Dude, nothing wrong with taking the time off, listen to your body. IMO, you will come back and be able to lift more and go harder in the gym because your body had the break. Take the time, eat, sleep and hit it hard when you come back.

 

[outlawtas]

Agree with everyone here. In fact, the mistake a lot of people take is go balls to the wall for 12 weeks, then rest during post cycle therapy (pct). I'd much rather see someone take their 12 week off, so they have rested up and ready to work hard during PCT.

 

[Cardiff_Muscle]

Your muscle grow while away from the gym. Though you may be "very happy with your results so far", you obviously expected, and obtained too little.

Old
Bench - 264
Squat - 396
Dead - 308

400mg Test E
Bench - 286
Squat - 418
Dead - 352


Based on the very little progress who have made in your lifts, one must conclude that your training is all volume and thus not intense. Also one must conclude that as with most newbies, your calories consumption is too low.
.

My lifts, although maybe not impressive to you, are significantly higher for myself then when I began and therefore I am satisfied with them. In regards to my calorie intake I believe it to be sufficent to gain lean mass and not fat gain with some lean mass.

My intake is broken down as such:

Total calorific intake:5031 - of which

481g protien / 347g carbs / 164g fats

Therefore due to me being a newbie please tell me exactally in what part of my diet I am falling over in?

On your currrent cycle, your bench should have gone up no less than 50 lbs., squat no less than 100 lbs.,and dead lift no less than 150 lbs. The gains you made could have easily been made Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) free with proper HIT training and adequate calorie consumption.

Being an authority on this, please can you tell me on what research diagnostic this was concluded because as of today, I was under the impression that each indervidual responds differently to varying amounts of AAS

I am sure my response is going to offend your pride, but swallow your pride for the sake of REAL SUCCESS!

Not at all, as to be honest oppinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one.

Thanks for your response, but it didnt really answer my original question. However do check through the calorie amounts and show me where I messed up.

cheers

 

[Deepglute]

My lifts, although maybe not impressive to you, are significantly higher for myself then when I began and therefore I am satisfied with them. In regards to my calorie intake I believe it to be sufficent to gain lean mass and not fat gain with some lean mass.

If you believe your lifts are significantly higher, then you have a different understanding of the word significantly.

Your starting lifts and ending lifts could easily be reached Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) free. The purpose in using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is to make huge increases in strength and LBM.

I post this more for the benefit of others than for you. I don't want to see other young guys risk their health and their freedom for gains which in truth are insignificant at best.

 

[diabou]

i agree with 20lbs not being very big increase in lifts, but it also depends what was the person starting with.

i believe that for someone squatting 500lbs raw going to 550 lbs in 12 week cycle is very good actually. pulling 600 raw and going to 640-650 raw in 12 weeks is also very good in my book.
if we were all to gain 150lbs on deadlift in the first cycle, then wooohooo, suddenly we've got a bunch of 700-750lbs deadlifters. and then what - in 2 years we're making andy bolton looking miserable with his poor 1003 lbs dl?

so i guess it all depends on the person and there's no template "50lbs bench and 150 dl or you're looser, swallow your pride".

and for the main poster - i'd say take a week off, do some cardio, eat properly. after a week you'll be hungry of hitting big weights.

 

[Trevdog]

I agree that you would probably benefit from taking your usual week off.

 

[Cardiff_Muscle]

If you believe your lifts are significantly higher, then you have a different understanding of the word significantly.

Your starting lifts and ending lifts could easily be reached Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) free. The purpose in using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is to make huge increases in strength and LBM.

I post this more for the benefit of others than for you. I don't want to see other young guys risk their health and their freedom for gains which in truth are insignificant at best.

I don't post this to argue with you. However lift in relation to strength have not always been my strong point. Im sure I could lift heavier, but I choose form and my joints over ego and pushing as much for the sake of it.

In regards to LBM, I don't call 15lbs of additional mass on a low test dosage "insignificant" thus far. I appreciate your comments and Im sure the other younger guys will to.

Lets leave it at that.

 

[Deepglute]

i agree with 20lbs not being very big increase in lifts, but it also depends what was the person starting with.

i believe that for someone squatting 500lbs raw going to 550 lbs in 12 week cycle is very good actually. pulling 600 raw and going to 640-650 raw in 12 weeks is also very good in my book.
if we were all to gain 150lbs on deadlift in the first cycle, then wooohooo, suddenly we've got a bunch of 700-750lbs deadlifters. and then what - in 2 years we're making andy bolton looking miserable with his poor 1003 lbs dl?

All that you have posted is very true, and goes without saying. I could even add to your post by stating that a 5 lbs. increase in bench, squat, and deadlift would be great gains for a quadriplegic! Oh well, at least we got our post count up.

 

[Deepglute]

Cardiff_Muscle, being that you are obviously not a "Natural Born Powerlifter", does give you an advantage as a bodybuilder. If you ever do get your powerlift toal to near 1,500 lbs., you will be huge!

I have seen natural, (AAS free), powerlifters total 1,500+ lbs. who were never able to get huge with or without AAS.

 

[02gixxersix]

The main question I would ask when looking at your lifts is are you going deep enough on your squats to count it? It seems that your squat is way out of proportion to your deadlift and bench to me.

And def take a week off or take 2 weeks of easy lifting in the gym not going to failure.