Win/Var/Clen Cutting Cycle Advice

[Glamis858]

Hey Guys,

Wanted a little advice on the cycle i'm about to run. Been on here a couple hours reading a lot of great info. I'm on the fence cause i see conflicting posts. Some good & some bad so i figured i would give you my stats and see what you guys recommend.

I did a couple cycles 8 years ago. Did a test and decca cycle and also did win and primo cycle all injectables. Went really well and had great results. Since then i've been hitting the gym for the most part pretty consistent. I'll hit it hard 5-6 days a week for 6-7 months before summer and then i'll tone it down during winter and maybe take 2 to 3 weeks off from lifting and go maybe 3-4 days a week rather than the 5-6 i normally go when it starts approcahing summer.

Stats right now - 29yrs, 6'1, 205lbs. I have some pretty good size and defiantly don't want to bulk up. My goal is to really just cut up and get shredded.

My diet right now is at 2000-2300 cal per day, only drink lots of water, protein 200-250 grams a day. No alchohol for the last 5 weeks and don't plan on drinking any until the 4th of July.

Planning on running this cycle for the next 6 weeks and would like to see what you guys think....

Var- 50mgs daily (20mg 8am, 20mg 4pm, 10mg 11pm)
Win- 50mgs (injections every other day)
Clen- 80 mcgs daily (40mcg 8:30am, 40mcg 3:30pm) 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off and going to start at 40mcg first couples days just to get used to it.


Would really appreciate to hear what you guys think. Any suggestions would help. Thanks!

 

[bigherm2121]

Well this is a horrible cycle. First off this stack here will prob have your natty test shutdown in ten days because you won't have any test. Test should be ran win all and any cycle. This will lead to loss in energy and you'll have trouble burning fat off. You'll also will have a loss in libido and your cholesterol and joints will go to shit from the Winstrol (winny). Easy Anwser don't do this unless with test. You'll do more harm then good.

 

[nlieb]

Hey Guys,

Wanted a little advice on the cycle i'm about to run. Been on here a couple hours reading a lot of great info. I'm on the fence cause i see conflicting posts. Some good & some bad so i figured i would give you my stats and see what you guys recommend.

I did a couple cycles 8 years ago. Did a test and decca cycle and also did win and primo cycle all injectables. Went really well and had great results. Since then i've been hitting the gym for the most part pretty consistent. I'll hit it hard 5-6 days a week for 6-7 months before summer and then i'll tone it down during winter and maybe take 2 to 3 weeks off from lifting and go maybe 3-4 days a week rather than the 5-6 i normally go when it starts approcahing summer.

Stats right now - 29yrs, 6'1, 205lbs. I have some pretty good size and defiantly don't want to bulk up. My goal is to really just cut up and get shredded.

My diet right now is at 2000-2300 cal per day, only drink lots of water, protein 200-250 grams a day. No alchohol for the last 5 weeks and don't plan on drinking any until the 4th of July.

Planning on running this cycle for the next 6 weeks and would like to see what you guys think....

Var- 50mgs daily (20mg 8am, 20mg 4pm, 10mg 11pm)
Win- 50mgs (injections every other day)
Clen- 80 mcgs daily (40mcg 8:30am, 40mcg 3:30pm) 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off and going to start at 40mcg first couples days just to get used to it.


Would really appreciate to hear what you guys think. Any suggestions would help. Thanks!

Use HCG, it will keep your natural test from getting suppressed and you won't be too anabolic. Your joints will still suck, though. Test or HCG, there's a tradeoff.

 

[Harnold]

cycle

my advice would be to drop the whinny and ad test.
winstrol just causes problems that you can do without.

 

[bigherm2121]

Use HCG, it will keep your natural test from getting suppressed and you won't be too anabolic. Your joints will still suck, though. Test or HCG, there's a tradeoff.

This is false. It will not keep your natural test from being suppressed!!!

 

[DADAWG]

drop the winnie and add test prop . make sure to run pct starting 3 days after the last injection.

 

[brother bundy]

Use HCG, it will keep your natural test from getting suppressed and you won't be too anabolic. Your joints will still suck, though. Test or HCG, there's a tradeoff.

wtf

 

[Glamis858]

Thanks for the info so far! From the sound of things it looks like the Win is a no go. Crap i already bought 2 bottles! So even at the low dosage i'm planning on running you guys still don't think i should run it? Unless, of coarse i run Test with it right? If i decide to run test with this cycle, what dosage do you guys recommend? Thanks again!

 

[Glamis858]

So i did a little more research and i'm defiantly going to run the test now with this cycle. What do you guys recommend for PCT? I've seen people saying different things. Some say Nolva, others say Clomd or Proviron? In the past i just did the Nolva but wanted to see what your thoughts were on this.... Thanks for the input

 

[DADAWG]

So i did a little more research and i'm defiantly going to run the test now with this cycle. What do you guys recommend for PCT? I've seen people saying different things. Some say Nolva, others say Clomd or Proviron? In the past i just did the Nolva but wanted to see what your thoughts were on this.... Thanks for the input

50 mg of clomid and 20 mg of nolva for 3-4 weeks.

 

[Greens]

People hate Winstrol for a variety of reasons.
It dries out your entire body, joints, tendons, everything, that's the main reason IMO.
That's why people think that Winstrol makes you "cut". It doesn't. It shuts down your natural testosterone production and sucks all of the water out of you, leaving you very prone to injury.
Once coming off of Winstrol the water returns, and bam all of a sudden you're not as "cut" as you used to be. Unless you're a pro BB prepping for a show I don't see any use for Winstrol.
Good for you doing your research first, hopefully you can trade back the Winstrol for some test lol.

 

[Glamis858]

lol Greens yea i don't think that's gonna happen.. damn i should of checked to see if they have an exchange or refund policy lmao

Dawg - so i should just take both of them everyday? when should i start? you previously said 3 days after last injection correct?

Thanks again guys for all the help!

 

[DADAWG]

lol Greens yea i don't think that's gonna happen.. damn i should of checked to see if they have an exchange or refund policy lmao

Dawg - so i should just take both of them everyday? when should i start? you previously said 3 days after last injection correct?

Thanks again guys for all the help!

starting date depends on what steroids are being run. give the exact type of test / etser and exact cycle and a lot of people here can give you a post cycle therapy (pct) timeline.

 

[Glamis858]

starting date depends on what steroids are being run. give the exact type of test / etser and exact cycle and a lot of people here can give you a post cycle therapy (pct) timeline.

Ok, so this is what i was thinking of running for 6 weeks... Anavar (var) 50mgs/daily, Win 50/mgs every other day, Test cypionate 200/mgs every 5 days

 

[DADAWG]

Ok, so this is what i was thinking of running for 6 weeks... Anavar (var) 50mgs/daily, Win 50/mgs every other day, Test cypionate 200/mgs every 5 days

test cyp needs 10 weeks mininum . if your gonna run a 6 week cycle use test prop.

if you run cyp for 10 wait 2 weeks from last injection. test prop requires a 3 day wait.

 

[Glamis858]

test cyp needs 10 weeks mininum . if your gonna run a 6 week cycle use test prop.

if you run cyp for 10 wait 2 weeks from last injection. test prop requires a 3 day wait.

Thanks for the info Dawg! so i was only able to grab the cyp unfortuantly that's all my buddy had right now and I would of had to wait a couple weeks for prop. so looks like i'll be running that for the next 8 weeks. Have a couple more questions and wanted to see your take on it.... Since i'm trying to cut up, what do you recommend on dosage? 200mgs every 5 days? or do a full cc 275mgs every 6 days? also i started the win & var last week so this will out run the win/var as i'm only doing that for 6 weeks. do you think i should run nolva or anything while on the test or just wait to take the nolva & clomid 2 weeks after last injection?

 

[DADAWG]

Thanks for the info Dawg! so i was only able to grab the cyp unfortuantly that's all my buddy had right now and I would of had to wait a couple weeks for prop. so looks like i'll be running that for the next 8 weeks. Have a couple more questions and wanted to see your take on it.... Since i'm trying to cut up, what do you recommend on dosage? 200mgs every 5 days? or do a full cc 275mgs every 6 days? also i started the win & var last week so this will out run the win/var as i'm only doing that for 6 weeks. do you think i should run nolva or anything while on the test or just wait to take the nolva & clomid 2 weeks after last injection?

dont run both winnie and var , winnie is junk imo anyway. if youn only have 10cc and arent going to get more then run either 1 cc a week or better 1/2 cc 2 times a week. if your getting more then about 1 cc or a little less every 4 days for 10-12 weeks.

 

[Tugboatz]

I was gonna jump in and say where's the test! but it looks like that is already covered. DaDawg pretty much answered.

Since you are going to run the TestC mainly to supplement suppression of natural test .5cc 2x/wk should be fine, will also help fight the Clen gobbling up all your muscle.

Standard post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last inj, as usual.

I don't have anything to add, but a question. DaDawg (or whoever else) I have read several cycles that puts the Winstrol (winny) at the end of the cycle. Since he already has the stuff, would that be an option? Never ran it myself, so I can't say.

 

[DADAWG]

I was gonna jump in and say where's the test! but it looks like that is already covered. DaDawg pretty much answered.

Since you are going to run the TestC mainly to supplement suppression of natural test .5cc 2x/wk should be fine, will also help fight the Clen gobbling up all your muscle.

Standard post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last inj, as usual.

I don't have anything to add, but a question. DaDawg (or whoever else) I have read several cycles that puts the Winstrol (winny) at the end of the cycle. Since he already has the stuff, would that be an option? Never ran it myself, so I can't say.

i dont have any use for winnie. it gives very little gains and its rep for cutting is FALSE , it dries you out " including your joints " so people think they cut up but the water come back when winnie stops.

 

[willypct40]

Dude every cycle needs a test base,you wonna
get ripped..diet and tren.
I'm on my third week of test e 300ew,tren mix 500ew,
proviron 50mg Ed. And I'm loving it.
tren is the king .. Do more research !!!!