Worth adding EQ? Just Var? Combo?

[Invictusboy]

I'm looking to do a little cutting cycle. I've got:
test e (500mg/wk) wk 1-12 test e
Var (60mg/day) wk 4-12 (or 6-12, undecided on length of oral for me)
Arimidex ready wk 1-pct start
Nolva for PCT 40/40/20/20
hcg (500iu/wk) wk 1-12 (any break in this due to desensitizing?)
*Wondering: does this count as a big enough aas load to blast near the end also?

This is my general starting after reading all the info on here (tweaks are welcome). My other question is would it be worth ading EQ on top of all of this? Perhaps 400mg/wk?

Also---any advice to just do EQ without Var?? Pros? Cons? From personal experience, I don't know much about EQ.

6'2"
220 lbs
11%bf
not my first cycle- but I will be new to either EQ or Var. Also hcg is new.

Thanks so much in advance. I appreciate those smarter than I am!!!

 

[bigkit34]

Looks good i would go var week 6-12 at 80 mg a day instead of 60mg 4-12. Also no hcg blast at end keep it during cycle

 

[bigkit34]

Forgot to add adex during starting at .25 eod and adjusting if necessary and add clomid to pct at 50mg ed

 

[Invictusboy]

Thanks!! That is all good advice/info!! I've never done clomid- only nolva and have been fine. I've read (countless hours) on clomid vs nolva and combo. For the price, it's probably worth just covering all my bases and including it.

Also- any advice on equi?

 

[bigkit34]

Eq at 400 for 12 weeks i`d pass. Needs to be ran a lil longer and around 600 for best results

 

[DipKing]

I agree. 12 weeks isn't enough time to add EQ. Lot of guys don't like it and opt out for deca, so you may consider that. I've personally never tried it, so I can't make an argument for or against it.

 

[Invictusboy]

I have done deca before and loved it. I know diet, diet, diet is what determines cutting/bulking for the most part- but I wasn't considering deca for a cutter....should I consider it?

 

[tmangh]

you'd be using it for your joints on a cutting cycle......though there are many mixed reviews on a mild dose during cutting.

 

[Invictusboy]

you'd be using it for your joints on a cutting cycle......though there are many mixed reviews on a mild dose during cutting.

Low dose as in 250mg/300mg per week?

 

[jack3d4life]

Looks good i would go var week 6-12 at 80 mg a day instead of 60mg 4-12. Also no hcg blast at end keep it during cycle

I second this motion. Running 75mg for 8 weeks right now. Will jump to 100mg last 4 weeka possibly

 

[Invictusboy]

Looks good i would go var week 6-12 at 80 mg a day instead of 60mg 4-12. Also no hcg blast at end keep it during cycle

Any need to take weeks off of hcg during cycle due to desensitizing? Or is that just at higher doses?

 

[sadpanda]

just make sure the var you have is legit.

Way too much winny floating around promising to be var

personally, i am never running var again lol

also i would not waste my time with EQ, not worth the cost for amount of reward.

Plus it really messes your BP, you have to donate blood to keep ur RBC count normal.

and you need to run eq for a long time for it to be effective (atleast 14 weeks imo) and it takes A longggggg time to clear

 

[Invictusboy]

just make sure the var you have is legit.

Way too much winny floating around promising to be var

personally, i am never running var again lol

also i would not waste my time with EQ, not worth the cost for amount of reward.

Plus it really messes your BP, you have to donate blood to keep ur RBC count normal.

and you need to run eq for a long time for it to be effective (atleast 14 weeks imo) and it takes A longggggg time to clear

Why no more var for you?

 

[sadpanda]

Why no more var for you?

not worth the cost

almost impossible to find real var (i don't care what any UGL says their var isn't real or extremely underdosed(i've dealt with a few and im not wasting my time again))

 

[Invictusboy]

not worth the cost

almost impossible to find real var (i don't care what any UGL says their var isn't real or extremely underdosed(i've dealt with a few and im not wasting my time again))

It does seem to be pretty expensive everywhere I look. So after much more reading- test/deca with tight diet control and all the ancillary goods seems to be the best route. Is there any cutter you use at the end of a cycle instead of var then?

 

[KingBF]

I love the results I got from EQ but I wouldn't run it again because I needed to donate blood every 4 weeks throughout my cycle to keep RBC in check along with HCT

 

[gamosauros]

Go EQ all the way.. gained insane amount of strength , and hardness from it, not to mention the vascularity even at high BF%.
i would go like this
Test E 500mg /week week 1-12
EQ 400mg /week 1-12 ( i run 300 mg and had insane results although it was my 1st cycle on it )
var 60-70 mg ED 4-12
arimidex 0.5-1 mg EOD depending gyno-prolactin proneness. all way through cycle
HCG 1500IU EOD for 10 days
clomid -nolva 50/50/50/50
good luck mate

 

[sadpanda]

It does seem to be pretty expensive everywhere I look. So after much more reading- test/deca with tight diet control and all the ancillary goods seems to be the best route. Is there any cutter you use at the end of a cycle instead of var then?

don't think i am every gonna use anything other than test, tbol or tren for a cycle again

 

[noway55]

I'd raise var to at least 80mg ED, preferably 100mg ED.


EQ for 12 weeks isn't going to do much unless you frontload it, and even then it still won't do much. It's meant to be run for much longer periods, like 20-30 weeks. The minimum dose I'd recommend to anyone with EQ is 600mg, but it really shines at 900mg+.