Yet another first cycle

[Beginner85]

I’ve been doing a little research trying to piece together my first cycle, any help or advise would be greatly appreciated.

27 year old male
About 80kg
5’11
Under 10% bf
Training 8 years

I already have gear lined up, test E 250mg for a 12 week cycle, pinning twice a week Monday and Thursday mornings. I am just after some input about the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT I’ve suggested. I’ve recently had surgery for a small tissue mass removed from behind my left nip, I’m guessing that it was left over gyno from puberty. Because of this I’m a little paranoid and think that I will be prone to getting gyno while on cycle. Anyway here’s what I was thinking.

START
Week 1 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 2 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 3 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 4 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 5 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 6 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 7 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 8 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 9 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 10 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 11 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 12 500mg test E / Arimidex .25 ED
Week 13 - Nothing
Week 14 - Nothing
Week 15 50mg clomid 40mg nolva
Week 16 50mg clomid 40mg nolva
Week 17 50mg clomid 20mg nolva
Week 18 50mg clomid 20mg nolva
END

Im guessing I will just have extra Arimdex and Nolva on hand incase gyno flares up during cycle, but not sure how much if the need arises?

I also wanted to avoid Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) cause I'm having trouble getting it. Im hoping this wont affect the PCT at all...
Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[crazyfmike]

Cycle looks good and doesn't need any adjustments but I myself would want 3 weeks "nothing" prior to PCT and start off with 100mgs Clomid.

Just my .02

 

[Carhartt]

to long for a first cycle bro... 12 weeks in maximum......

 

[Tseng]

to long for a first cycle bro... 12 weeks in maximum......

Cycle looks good. He will be dosing for 12 weeks and that is absolutely fine.

Ideally, you want letro on hand in case gyno flares up. That is the only Aromatase inhibitor (AI) which will combat it effectively (reverse the symptoms).

EDIT: Might be an idea to take the Adex through weeks 13 and 14 because test levels will still be at their peak?

 

[gymsoldier]

Sorry for the hijack.

Is it always necessary to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) through your cycle? Or if you were not prone to gyno, could you get away with not using and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as per the cycle the OP stated.

 

[mlupi319]

Cycle is good. I agree with mike and tseung that you should wait closer to 3weeks before you start your SERM treatment and that you should run adex through pct.

 

[Tseng]

Sorry for the hijack.

Is it always necessary to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) through your cycle? Or if you were not prone to gyno, could you get away with not using and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as per the cycle the OP stated.

I guess it is personal preference at the end of the day. If you're prone to gyno or don't want to hold a lot of water, then running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is a smart move. On the other hand, you could try your luck and cycle without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and if gyno symptoms begin to appear, then use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Personally, I like to play it safe and use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (Aromasin) throughout my cycle and PCT. Also, do not cycle without any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand.

 

[BoBoy]

Hi - I"ve got a bottle full of Arimidex 1mg capsules , would this be too strong every day during cycle ? I see some guys taking 12.5 mg everyday even though they have no gyno yet . I"m just now going into my 3rd week of test 500mg weekly and no bloat or gyno yet . I don"t wanna have to break the capsules down into quarters . I was told to wait until gyno signs appear from one group , the other group says get started early . Am I getting Adex confused with Aromasin and whats the difference ? ~Bo

 

[mlupi319]

Hi - I"ve got a bottle full of Adex 1mg capsules , would this be too strong everyday ? I see some guys taking 12.5 mg everyday even though they have no gyno yet . I"m just now going into my 3rd week of test 500mg weekly and no bloat or gyno yet . I don"t wanna have to break the capsules down into quarters . I was told to wait until gyno signs appear from one group , the other group says get started early . More decisions... ~Bo

That 12.5mg ED is for Aromasin not Adex. Adex is normally taken @ .5mg ED as a preventative to estro sides, some who are very prone to estro sides run it up to 1mg, and some who don't encounter estro problems wait for estro sides to occur before dosing. It's all based on your own body. No one can tell you what dose is correct for your own body without seeing blood tests...but if you have fat deposits around your chest and hips, are relatively short, and had pubertal gyno then yes it would be wise to start your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) right from the beginning.

 

[BoBoy]

Thanx Mlup - thats what I thought , I get these anti-estrogens confused.....~Bo