0 sides on cycle! Terrible side on pct...!

[Tonk86]

I ran Test 400 1ml every 5 days for a total of 12 injections. Everything was fine on cycle. I waited 2 weeks before starting my PCT Nolva & clomid, but I'm suffering terrible lethargy, random tiredness, blurred vision, also feel extremely angry & fed up with everything... Nolva is just 20mg ed, clomid is 50mg ed. Should be more I know, but I'm struggling with this shite.

How necessary is PCT...? I mean really...? Because I feel fine, totally fine or at least I did until I started it. I don't feel as though I need it at all, everything is still functioning as normal. I have so many mates that haven't bothered with PCT & they've bounced back totally fine, they look happier than ever. It's got to be said, I feel I'm taking it for the sake of it.

Thoughts?

 

[Black Beard]

Get you and your friends some blood work then we will see how fine you really are.

 

[Tonk86]

True true, yeah, I know bloodwork will determine it all. I've always been the one highlighting the importance of pct & on cycle support. I took adex & hcg... Fine! But the SERMS are fucking me up. Maybe take them before bed...? Be handy If I can find someone who can relate to this, my mood has literally plummeted!

 

[Black Beard]

Get DAT blood work. Peace of mind and knowledge that will come in handy later. Trust me

 

[Tonk86]

Roger dodger, will do!!!

 

[Southernfish]

Like BlackBeard, you need blood work. Just because you feel fine doesnt mean you are. PCT is meant to start your system up again after being shut down for AAS use. It is absolutely necessary for recovery.

You say you have so many mates who dont do PCT and look great and look happy. That doesnt mean they recovered and normal hormone production has returned to normal. On top of that they say everything is fine but, but is it really? Who knows.

Get blood work and dont go by how you or someone else looks or feels. We wanna build muscle but health should be the number one prioity.

And these side effects you are experiencing right now, id bet its the clomid mostly and your hormones being outta of whack in the midst of recovery. Clomid hits a lot of guys like a ton of bricks and some find it a very difficult drug to handle but it is a MUST!!!

 

[Black Beard]

Like BlackBeard, you need blood work. Just because you feel fine doesnt mean you are. PCT is meant to start your system up again after being shut down for AAS use. It is absolutely necessary for recovery.

You say you have so many mates who dont do PCT and look great and look happy. That doesnt mean they recovered and normal hormone production has returned to normal. On top of that they say everything is fine but, but is it really? Who knows.

Get blood work and dont go by how you or someone else looks or feels. We wanna build muscle but health should be the number one prioity.

And these side effects you are experiencing right now, id bet its the clomid mostly and your hormones being outta of whack in the midst of recovery. Clomid hits a lot of guys like a ton of bricks and some find it a very difficult drug to handle but it is a MUST!!!

Yeah, clomid activates and blocks estrogen receptors. This can give people mental, estrogenic side effects. There is a new clomid derived drug that only contains the isomer that increases testosterone. Theoretically this will gives us all the benefits and less or none of the side effects.

 

[Southernfish]

Yeah, clomid activates and blocks estrogen receptors. This can give people mental, estrogenic side effects. There is a new clomid derived drug that only contains the isomer that increases testosterone. Theoretically this will gives us all the benefits and less or none of the side effects.

I read about that a while back, you might have even posted it but thats a while ago now so I cant remember. Either way that would be beneficial due to some of the ugly emotional side Clomid causes!!

 

[Tonk86]

Tell you what, I knew it was a good idea come on here. These replies have really helped me out. Thanks guys!

 

[Black Beard]

I read about that a while back, you might have even posted it but thats a while ago now so I cant remember. Either way that would be beneficial due to some of the ugly emotional side Clomid causes!!

Tell you what, I knew it was a good idea come on here. These replies have really helped me out. Thanks guys!

Yeah that was me


Glad to help Tonk




The drug is already in human clinical trials. So far so good. It raises testosterone, but they aren't doing anything crazy with it yet. Just low doses to bring people to "normal"

 

[Southernfish]

Anytime man, that why were, to help each other out.