12 week 1st cycle: Test e: 500mg/ew--+eq+dbol+hcg dosages?--input appreciated

[natalh]

Hey everyone,

I am; age: 25, height: 5'9, weight: 148lbs, BF%: approx 13% BF and I am an ecto. I have been training on and off since i was 18 so I have a good base for an Ecto. I now have a good understanding of diet and training and know what it takes so see realistic results while on AAS.

Now this is my first cycle and I have done my reading on SERMS, AI's, and post cycle therapy (pct) and thought that I should finally post and see what the online community could recommend me.

1) I would like to know what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to use during the cycle as I have read both Arimidex and Nolvadex are good choices but would like your input as to which would be a better idea with less sides?

2) I have read that running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the cycle is a good idea and would like to know how many IU's to use during the cycle and the duration.

3)Also, is running DBOL for weeks 1-4 a good idea to kickstart the cycle?

4) I have spoken to a few people and have been told that running EQ is a good idea. What would be the recommended dosage for 500mg of Test E / week of EQ? Would you recommend it for a first cycle with minimal sides?

5) I have read to use either Clomid or Femara as a SERM, what would be a better choice?

12 week cycle:
wks:1-12 Test Enanthate @ 500mg/week
wks:1-4 DBOL ***@ 40mg/day??*** Should it even be used??
wks:1-12 EQ ***(DOSAGE? DURATION?)***
wks:1-18 Nolva or Adex ***(was told this would limit gains during cycle)***
HCG: ***(DOSAGE? DURATION? FREQUENCY?)***

post cycle therapy (pct):
wks:15-18 Clomid vs Femara??***(DOSAGE?)***
wks:15-18 Adex/Nolva ***(DOSAGE?)***

I have read standard recommended dosages for a post cycle therapy (pct) but if I could be advised as to what my post cycle therapy (pct) should look like given what I will be cycling?
Thank you all for your help. I want to be as safe as I can be so thanks again!

 

[DADAWG]

you weigh 148 pounds you dont need steroids you need groceries.

you think that im being a dick but im not , steroids are useless without nutrition and if you had even a idea how to eat right you wouldnt weigh 148 pounds. also taking 3 steroids on a 1st cycle is a bad idea anyway . do some REAL research on nutrition and cycles before you screw up.

 

[MustangDX]

^^^Agreed^^^ 148lbs? wtf? You definitely have a lot of natural size you can gain before going on an AAS cycle. All you gotta do is get your nutrition/training regimen down.

 

[hardtarget]

I would eat first AND THEN so where it gets you!!

 

[fancyhuh101]

^^^ maybe not what u want to hear but its good advice man . if u cant gain weight and muscle naturaly , how can u do it on cycle . u need to learn to eat properly

 

[fancyhuh101]

and yes that means eating until u feel full and bloated ( sometimes even sick and uncomftable) the WHOLE DAY .

 

[a7x411]

Agreed.
I wanted to rush into AAS a while back, being 5'9" and 173lbs. Got the same advice. Def not what you want to hear but you need to be smart. Juice isn't something to mess around with.
All those questions you asked you should already know the answers to before starting. And always remember, everyone's different and everyone has different reactions/results.
I wouldn't even think about AAS until your at about 190lbs. AAS is made to tear down the barrier when you reach your genetic max, not bring you to your genetic max.

Eat to grow.

 

[natalh]

I completely understand what you've all said. I know your not being dicks or anything and I appreciate that, but if you could please answer the questions I had asked anyways so between now and when I do decide that I should do a cycle, I will have answers and further my knowledge on the topic between now and then. But you are all absolutely right and I should go as far as I can naturally before getting onto AAS. Thanks again guys I appreciate the feedback!

 

[cshadow]

I've just been lurking on this site for a bit, and even I can see that you have clearly not done the same. Do some of your own research and come back after you drink a few protein shakes

 

[natalh]

Thanks for stopping by buddy, im trying to do some research, hence the questions...The other people were good but you have added nothing to this thread that hasnt already been said. If your trying to get your posts up or troll, try another forum...

 

[natalh]

I've just been lurking on this site for a bit, and even I can see that you have clearly not done the same. Do some of your own research and come back after you drink a few protein shakes

Thanks for stopping by buddy, im trying to do some research, hence the questions...The other people were good but you have added nothing to this thread that hasnt already been said. If your trying to get your posts up or troll, try another forum...