15 weeks too long for first blast?

[bob1111]

I'm looking to start my first blast, been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 3 years, and plan to be on for life. I have primary hypogonadism with complete testicular failure. My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is 2 pumps per day of Androgel 1% and I respond pretty well.

I'm looking for some feedback on how long to run the gear I picked up along with my Androgel. I have enough Test E and EQ to run each at about 400mg/week (split into 2 shots per week) for 15 weeks. Is 15 weeks a little long for the first blast? I could shorten the cycle a bit and run each at higher doses, but I heard that EQ is most effective beyond 12 weeks. Also, would it make sense to take the Androgel for the first 2 weeks or so while Test E is kicking in or would you just recommend dropping it once I inject the Test E?

Basic stats
6'0" 183 lbs 14% BF
24 years old
3 years training. Last 1.5 with clean diet and consistency.

Goal
Lean gains 15 lbs or so, also improve strength

 

[crazyfmike]

I'm looking to start my first blast, been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 3 years, and plan to be on for life. I have primary hypogonadism with complete testicular failure. My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is 2 pumps per day of Androgel 1% and I respond pretty well.

I'm looking for some feedback on how long to run the gear I picked up along with my Androgel. I have enough Test E and EQ to run each at about 400mg/week (split into 2 shots per week) for 15 weeks. Is 15 weeks a little long for the first blast? I could shorten the cycle a bit and run each at higher doses, but I heard that EQ is most effective beyond 12 weeks. Also, would it make sense to take the Androgel for the first 2 weeks or so while Test E is kicking in or would you just recommend dropping it once I inject the Test E?

Basic stats
6'0" 183 lbs 14% BF
24 years old
3 years training. Last 1.5 with clean diet and consistency.

Goal
Lean gains 15 lbs or so, also improve strength

Keep on the Adro for two weeks or until you feel the Test E kick in. EQ at 300 would better, my reason is EQ is a blood maker and hell on RBC's. 16 weeks EQ is a minimum.

 

[bob1111]

Thanks, last I checked my RBC was already high end of normal, so at the very least I'd keep track of this while on EQ, and drop if I thought it was too high. Another option would be to give blood at some point, but I feel like doing this while on would sacrifice results. Main reason to run EQ higher/longer is I've read when run at lower doses for less than 12 weeks, it's basically a waste of money.

 

[rowdybrad]

Make sure to check out the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) section Bob. Is the cream getting your estrogen high? Might be easier to start im shots.

 

[MeatHead96]

Make sure to check out the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) section Bob. Is the cream getting your estrogen high? Might be easier to start im shots.

I agree, the doc put me on testim and that shit blew. On 10g a day my total test dropped from 268 to 87. I can't imagine what me estro level was but the doc was too stupid to test for that stuff.

 

[bob1111]

My estrogen (estradiol) is abnormally low, oddly enough. Also, forgot to mention during this blast, I will have Nolva on hand in case I get gyno.

 

[rowdybrad]

I bet if you just got on a moderate dose of test cyp at 3-400 ew in 2 shots you would get the results you want if your plan is on point.

 

[bob1111]

I agree, the doc put me on testim and that shit blew. On 10g a day my total test dropped from 268 to 87. I can't imagine what me estro level was but the doc was too stupid to test for that stuff.

For some odd reason, I respond well to gel. My levels are sometimes too high, if anything. I think there is a genetic/individual difference component. It probably also helps that I have very little BF in the areas that I apply it. Although, I have 14% BF, I have virtually no fat on arms and shoulders where I applly.

 

[bob1111]

I bet if you just got on a moderate dose of test cyp at 3-400 ew in 2 shots you would get the results you want if your plan is on point.

Yeah, not really sure the EQ is needed at all. I kind of want to try it to help with collagen synthesis, and because I'm already on test. Also, I've read that EQ is mild on the sides. The only test I have access to is test e and androgel.

 

[MeatHead96]

For some odd reason, I respond well to gel. My levels are sometimes too high, if anything. I think there is a genetic/individual difference component. It probably also helps that I have very little BF in the areas that I apply it. Although, I have 14% BF, I have virtually no fat on arms and shoulders where I applly.

Interesting, well if it ain't broke don't fix it I guess. I would run just test at 4-500mg for 12wks for your first blast and save the eq for later. Make sure you get bloodwork done to make sure there are no issues. Also, giving blood regularly is a good idea with TRT and blasting. If theres anything I can help you with don't hesitate to ask me. I can relate to your situation in a lot of ways.