1st cycle Dbol and Test Cyp questions.

Southpaw Cowboy

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Good afternoon everyone. I've been monitoring this site for a very long time and have decided to finally register and post. This is a very informative place and I have gained a wealth of knowledge from you all, so thanks!
A little history: I am 28 years old and have been into health and fitness my entire life (mostly on the endurance side as I played soccer until my early 20's). I started strength training for the purpose of gaining muscle and mass when I was 23. I weighed 145lbs with approx 9%-10% body fat and stood 5'11". Today, 5 years later, I am 205lbs and approx 13%-14% body fat (mainly in hips and lower midsection as I am lean everywhere else) and still 5'11". I started naturally and eventually stumbled on pro hormones (Cellucor P6 Black, and Halotest-25) and have been impressed with the gains I've managed to keep.
Now, fast forwarding, some months ago I came off of a Halotest-25 cycle (which suppresses natural test productions) and took some blood work required by my doc for a checkup. He advised me that my test level was 18ng/dl and medically he'd never even heard of this level being possible. I was prepared for low test levels but the doc suggested 1cc shots of test cyp every two weeks. I figured a test boost couldn't hurt and proceeded with treatment (4th shot today).
My question is regarding my first AAS cycle. I've chosen oral DBol since Test Cyp is already being administered. I was planning on 20-30mg per day for 6 weeks but haven't nailed that down yet. So here are my questions.
1. Since my test levels aren't normally low, will the test injections be of any (real) benefit while cycling DBol?
2. For PCT is Clomid alone sufficient (aside from milk thistle and glutathione for my liver), how much should i use, and should I use it in-cycle or only if gyno sets in?
Thanks in advance for educated responses. I've done research over the course of a year and just felt I had a bit of a situation (regarding the new test cyp injections) when it came to my first cycle and needed to get a couple questions answered. I'm not new to bodybuilding and steroid knowledge, I'm just new to using them. I look forward to everyone's input!
 
how much cyp are you getting a week? Most docs will prescribe relatively low doses. youd be better off going around the doc and getting your own and use 400-600mg a week for 10-15 weeks. Dbol isnt recommended for your first cycle but I did it and lived to tell about it. if its good dbol 30mg would be plenty for 4-6 weeks. i would also look into hcg and aromasin for pct with your clomid of course. nolva wouldnt really hurt either. your levels were so low from the prohormones suppressing them so you will need a good post cycle to bring your natural levels back into the normal range. now if you do have a good post cycle and continue to have low test welcome to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of your life.
 
Thanks for the quick response SS. I'm currently prescribed 200mg every 2 weeks. I can obtain test from my dbol source, so you're saying I should look into more test in my cycle? So that would calculate into 400-600mg on weeks I don't get the injection, and 200-400mg on weeks I do get the injection. That's a thought. As for aromasin and hcg it's a matter of availability if you know what I mean. I'm not sure where to source that currently. My test levels are usually in the above average range so I don't suspect testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life is a reality. As for the Clomid, during cycle or just on hand in case of gyno? And how much? I was thinking 150/100/50/50/50/50 or something similar.
 
However I do know the general consensus is a test only first cycle. Since I'm already receiving half of the dosage from the doc, then it's possible I could just do a test only cycle for the first time. My only concern is when my test cycle ends, I don't want to "scale down" my injections (because the doc will still be prescribing the 1cc every other week. I suppose I could just stop getting them though LoL.
 
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