1st cycle dbol only was v.effective,wanna do orals only,next cycle?

[eyeothetiger]

Hi,I'm soon to finish my first cycle of dbol only@30mg/day for 6 weeks.
Cycle has been effective,I want to stick with orals only so what is best second cycle for me?.
Another dbol only with maybe some Winstrol (winny) towards end?
Anadrol only?
Notha suggestion?

Thanks for any advice fellas.

 

[dolf]

Come back a couple weeks after your post cycle therapy (pct) and well see if it was worth it. All oral cycles are not recommended. Why not man up and inject? Much better results

 

[Primordial Performance]

Hi,I'm soon to finish my first cycle of dbol only@30mg/day for 6 weeks.
Cycle has been effective,I want to stick with orals only so what is best second cycle for me?.
Another dbol only with maybe some Winstrol (winny) towards end?
Anadrol only?
Notha suggestion?

Thanks for any advice fellas.

If you had to stick to orals Id say Dbol and anavar will produce some solid gains. My personal favorite is Test and anavar.

Some guys use Dermacrine (topical) as a testosterone replacement for a cycle. It will produce results similar to 150mg-200mg/wk test enanthate.

-Pp

 

[Strega]

LOL
You havent finished your cycle yet. Like was posted earlier, wait till 3 or 4 weeks after your cycle to tell us what you think. Most of your "gains" will vanish.

 

[zephyrdaz]

What you have been doing is in all probabilty pointless and you've wasted your money and gained a lot of water.

What are you doing for PCT?

and as I asked you in another thread:

What are your stats?
Training history?

 

[gaudrtyl]

I couldn't help but comment on this. I've ran a dozen or so oral only's over the last 5 or so years. Six weeks each. I've used Dbol on 7 occasions, anadrol twice and winni twice and anavar by itself 3 times. Anadrol are the only ones I lost more than 1/4 of what I gained. I've used only Nolv for post cycle therapy (pct) every time 20mg each day for two or three weeks after and couple times i started nolv in the second last week or cycle. (didn't use any post cycle therapy (pct) with winni) I love orals. I used liver protection each time and had reagular blood and liver test done and my kidneys checked. No problems. In total the last 5 years I've gone from 170lbs at 5'4" up to 205lbs (no height change obviously). the heaviest I went was on anadrol I was up to 210lbs. In my opinion more that 210 looks freakish for my hieght. I work out 4 days a week and do 15 to 20 minutes cardio after each workout. I'm proving alot of people who tried to tell me I'd be wasting my time wrong. I wiped out a level one event a couple years ago at 186lbs and no one even came close. Never stuck needles in my life an never will. I can get orals dirt cheap and good ones.

 

[drock99]

5'4 @ 210lb lol

Kids don't do orals only, you'll end up like this guy on the net! http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/504-210.shtml

 

[gaudrtyl]

I'm not the only 5'4" bodybuilder who is over 200lbs in this world. I agree thats too big at my hieght. But it blow peoples minds when I'm on stage!!! I do neet to work on the legs a little though. Some people like myself, take good to orals. Hell even creatine make me put on about 12 lbs in a couple months. Mind you I pissed at least every hour and a half and when I stopped taking it I lost ALL of it within a couple weeks. But i'm a for life oral juicer!!

 

[punk77]

This is just my own personal experience: I have done orals (dbol) only 4 times. If we are talking about a bodybuilding only standpoint here I cannot speak. The times I have done these were for strength only events. The results were WONDERFUL, and much more is kept than the myths going around out there IF you actually keep on stuffing yourself with good food and keep on working hard. What you need to do is set up your mind in 2 phases. 1) Eat and train like a freak when you first start, 2) repeat one as soon as the cycle is over.

It is tough to get your mind back into it once off, but if you can just remember to do it once you are off you will keep much more than you thought. I have done test only for strength type events and when the cycle was over I was just mentally not there. Guess what??? I lost MORE after the test only cycle than the dbol only cycle! Dead serious. I guess it goes to show how much your mind plays a part in this.

Now, if everyone in here is referring to bodybuilding only and the effects of an oral only cycle..... I am not sure. My guess is though, if you put your mind to it once the cycle is over it would not be that bad and you won't lose as much as some claim.

This part is my opinion, but that is because I needed to be on a cycle at a time I was traveling by air a lot. I don't know why, but I was paranoid about carrying things with me for a test cycle. I know, I could have just shipped to the hotel, but I did not think of that at the time..... still, I did not have fear of hiding pills and I knew it would be much easier to stuff some in a Mega Men bottle, lol. So depending on your circumstances, yes, I am a big advocate of oral only if need be. Just remember no matter why type of cycle you are taking to have your mind focused on that second part! When it's over!

 

[gdaddypurp]

ive done an oral turinabol only cycle before and truly loved the results from it.....it really improved my symmetry, got me hard and vascular, and made me look like i lost a little bit of fat but I cant say for sure.

All in all, if ur going to do oral only i would do dbol 1-4 and tbol 1-8

for whatthat would cost tho u could easily get a couple vials of test and run it at 500mg/wk and most likely have much better results. I can say that oral only worked and worked well for me but i have nothing to compare it too, i will in a couple of weeks so i hope im in for a good time. If tbol did me well then test and tren should be fuckin wild.

 

[gaudrtyl]

Over the last few weeks since I started this thread I have been running dbol only cycle (on week 3 or 5 week 40mg/day cycle) Once again it's working great as usual. Up about 8 lbs or so and feeling stronger then ever. No side effects noticed (as usual). I have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and pct on hand but decided not to run anything other than liv support with it. Seeing if I"m supseptable to gyno or not. I've only run dbol once without nolv during but a low dose. May back fire on me but we'll see. I'm ready if Mr Gyno sneaks up on me. Still toying with the idea of winni with dbol but haven't brought myself to try it yet. Everyone is saying winni and dbol sucks and anadrol and winni way to go for oral only. the anavar i got turned out to be fake (should have know as it should have been twice what i paid) oh well you live and learn, right? I have a ton of dbol (enough for on off cycles for at least a year or so) I like the results with dbol only so don't think i'll spend the big bucks on real Anavar (var) but anadrol and winni not out of the question.

 

[DrManhattan]

Over the last few weeks since I started this thread I have been running dbol only cycle (on week 3 or 5 week 40mg/day cycle) Once again it's working great as usual. Up about 8 lbs or so and feeling stronger then ever. No side effects noticed (as usual). I have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and pct on hand but decided not to run anything other than liv support with it. Seeing if I"m supseptable to gyno or not. I've only run dbol once without nolv during but a low dose. May back fire on me but we'll see. I'm ready if Mr Gyno sneaks up on me. Still toying with the idea of winni with dbol but haven't brought myself to try it yet. Everyone is saying winni and dbol sucks and anadrol and winni way to go for oral only. the anavar i got turned out to be fake (should have know as it should have been twice what i paid) oh well you live and learn, right? I have a ton of dbol (enough for on off cycles for at least a year or so) I like the results with dbol only so don't think i'll spend the big bucks on real Anavar (var) but anadrol and winni not out of the question.

So like what was asked earlier....
Pics?

I'm curious and u have good experience

 

[DrManhattan]

Guess the question will go unanswered

 

[gaudrtyl]

maybe this will help!

Guess the question will go unanswered

Over the last few months I've been looking for advice on this as well and haven't found many people at all that will do anything other than tell you oral only sucks. It's annoying actually. If you ask someone there opinion and all they have to say is oral sucks well fine than, but if you ask what two orals would go well together (in my opinion) If people don't have anything positive to say then I think they should just read the post and move on and don't bother commenting as its just an annoyance. So in my words, if you don't have anything positive to say, don't say anything at all!!!

Now to your origional question. In my opinion and my expeience the best oral only cycles (and yes they can be hard on your liver) are Dbol and Anavar (var) (dbol 40mg for 5 weeks and Anavar (var) 50mg for 5 weeks or longer if its feasable. Another one that worked well was Anadrol 75 to 100mg a day for 4 weeks and winni 50 mg a day for 6 weeks (anadrol makes me feel like crap so i stay away from it). Most people who have had good experiences with oral only that i've talked to liked Tbol and either Anavar (var) or winni for 6 weeks (Tbol and 40mg and Anavar (var) or winni at 50 mg) With usual post cycle therapy (pct) and and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for sure with Dbol anyways. I hope this helps. I don't have much else to go on but experience and every body is different. So I hope you figure out what you wanna do and keep me informed. I'm and oral aas for life (or atleast until my liver says STOP!!!) lol!

 

[DrManhattan]

Al i asked for were your pics.......

That is all

 

[gaudrtyl]

Oh ok dude, sorry about that. I'll get right on that. LOL
I'm not one of the guys who posts pics for anyone elses sake but my own. I'll see if I can dig a few up but I'm not gonna post them just for the hell of it. I already ended up on a youtube once and had to fight like hell to get it off. I had My posing routine from way back a couple years ago end up on there some how and I was not impressed. Since then I haven't put any pics or vids online of me or my family or friends. Have you seen what people do when they take a vid or pic and doctor it up and give it a new (stupid title) ? Been there done that. No more sharing pics or vids from this guy. When I compete later this summer pics of me will end up online anyways (at least those ones can be played with). I hope this anwers your question and stops the question!

 

[Hayesy]

I couldn't help but comment on this. I've ran a dozen or so oral only's over the last 5 or so years. Six weeks each. I've used Dbol on 7 occasions, anadrol twice and winni twice and anavar by itself 3 times. Anadrol are the only ones I lost more than 1/4 of what I gained. I've used only Nolv for post cycle therapy (pct) every time 20mg each day for two or three weeks after and couple times i started nolv in the second last week or cycle. (didn't use any post cycle therapy (pct) with winni) I love orals. I used liver protection each time and had reagular blood and liver test done and my kidneys checked. No problems. In total the last 5 years I've gone from 170lbs at 5'4" up to 205lbs (no height change obviously). the heaviest I went was on anadrol I was up to 210lbs. In my opinion more that 210 looks freakish for my hieght. I work out 4 days a week and do 15 to 20 minutes cardio after each workout. I'm proving alot of people who tried to tell me I'd be wasting my time wrong. I wiped out a level one event a couple years ago at 186lbs and no one even came close. Never stuck needles in my life an never will. I can get orals dirt cheap and good ones.

Hey this is good to hear I'm looking at doing a Dbol only at 50mg Ed for 5 weeks it will be my first cycle ever so what do think my possible gains will be and what will I keep my stats - 5'10" 205lbs 17%bf been training natural for about 2 years

 

[DADAWG]

I couldn't help but comment on this. I've ran a dozen or so oral only's over the last 5 or so years. Six weeks each. I've used Dbol on 7 occasions, anadrol twice and winni twice and anavar by itself 3 times. Anadrol are the only ones I lost more than 1/4 of what I gained. I've used only Nolv for post cycle therapy (pct) every time 20mg each day for two or three weeks after and couple times i started nolv in the second last week or cycle. (didn't use any post cycle therapy (pct) with winni) I love orals. I used liver protection each time and had reagular blood and liver test done and my kidneys checked. No problems. In total the last 5 years I've gone from 170lbs at 5'4" up to 205lbs (no height change obviously). the heaviest I went was on anadrol I was up to 210lbs. In my opinion more that 210 looks freakish for my hieght. I work out 4 days a week and do 15 to 20 minutes cardio after each workout. I'm proving alot of people who tried to tell me I'd be wasting my time wrong. I wiped out a level one event a couple years ago at 186lbs and no one even came close. Never stuck needles in my life an never will. I can get orals dirt cheap and good ones.

scan your blood work results please.

 

[UserAt204]

And he bumped an old ass thread. Good luck waiting for someone to answer a thread that's a couple years old. Oral only cycles are retarded

 

[bigboy09]

I did oral only and got good results would say I kept only 10% or less imo of what I gained. I am in my 2nd cycle with test e, eq, and dbol kickstart. I have seen a huge difference between the two I've put on 15 lbs of pretty lean muscle and from what I hear the test e wont kick in till week 4. ill keep u up on the post cycle results but im recommending u pin it. its not that bad really. if ur scared of needles u will get over it for heavens sakes I passed out on my 3rd pin now I almost look forward to it.