Welcome to my 1st cycle log. 
I decided to run Helladrol for a bulk cycle.
In this log I'll share my experience and give you a detailed low down on why I run what I run.
Hope this helps someone. At the very least it will help me be thorough and have one spot for all my data.
Starting stats:
Age - 29
Height - 5' 9"
Weight - 198.4 lbs
Body Fat - 28 %
My goals:
Gain 20 lbs
Don't gain any fat
My cycle:
1-6 Helladrol - 75 / 75 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100 (3*7 *2 + 4*7 *4) = 154 pills
1-6 N2 guard - 7 pills at night (294 pills)
1-6 5g Taurine (42 servings)
1-9 Forged Joint Repair - 2 pills (126 pills)
1-10 Creatine - 1 serving (70 servings) // On Hold
1-12 NAC - 2 pills daily (168 pills)
1-10 Forma Stanzol - 6 - 10 pumps a day = 420 - 700 pumps
7-10 Forged Post Cycle - 4 a day = 112 pills
7-10 Test Infusion - 6 a day (126 pills)
7-12 Premium Powders DAA - 1 serving (42 servings)
My shopping list:
N2guard - 2 bottles - 420 pills
Forged Joint Repair - 2 bottles - 120 pills
Helladrol - 1 bottle - 180 pills
Taurine (400g) - 2 bottle - 160 servings @ 5 g
Creatine (400g) - 1 bottle - 80 servings @ 5 g
Test Infusion - 1 bottle - 180 pills
Forma Stanzol - 1 bottle - 600 pumps
Premium Powders DAA Powder - 1 bottle - 90 servings 3g
Forged Post Cycle - 2 bottles - 150 pills
NAC - 2 bottles - 240 pills
All in all, a 530$ investment.
Add to that 3Js fee and a ton of food
Not a cheap date, but gotta pay to play.
My diet:
Coached by 3J. One less thing to worry about.
His diet is amazingly flexible.
Right now I'm at about 3500 cals a day. We'll see if and how that changes in the coming weeks.
My workout:
Also 3J's doing.
Reverse pyramid training (never tried that before).
Mon - Rest
Tue - Chest
Wed - Back
Thu - Shoulders
Fri - Legs
Sat - Arms
Sun - Rest
Why an oral only cycle:
Yes, i have read all the stickies, yes I know it's frowned upon around here, but I've done my research.
First and foremost: It's legal. Can't beat that.
Second: I'm too fat to safely pin test.
Why Halodrol:
Documented little to no sides. I found these claims in many articles online, as well as in the logs of fellow forum members.
Documented lean gains. Halodrol may not make the biggest gains, but the ones you get are lean, with little to no bloat and supposedly keepable. Again, I read this many, many times.
Forum members on here have reported 20+ lbs gains for 6 week cycles. Way milder dosed 4 week cycles have documented 10 lbs and more.
Why Helladrol:
Out of all the Halodrol supplemets I found, Helladrol had the best price per gram. Simple math.
Below are some of the things I found while looking around online. Please don't ask me where exactly, as I have probably read 200 articles / threads etc. before I decided on this cycle.
Some of this was taken from my posts in other threads.
Just thought I'd compile it all into one post.
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol (Halovar)
A clone of Halodrol (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3b,17b-diol)
Halodrol is a 17aa steroid that converts to the steroid oral Turinabol after interaction with 3b-HSD at an estimated rate of about 5%. Because of this low conversion, doses must be higher than other 17aa pro-steroids. However, it is suspected that Halodrol has decent potency without conversion as good results are seen despite the relatively low conversion to Turinabol. Halodrol appears to be about as potent as testosterone, and significantly less androgenic.
Because of the 4-chloro group, halodrol has no progestational effects, it cannot interact with the aromatase enzyme, and it produces inactive 4-chloro-DHT metabolites. This makes androgenic side-effects such as hair loss, high blood pressure, acne and prostate enlargement less likely.
The lack of androgenic potency might be expected to create problems with gyno, however the low SHBG binding affinity has minimal interference with SHBG levels and/or freely circuiting estrogen and testosterone. It does not appear that halodrol has a significant gyno risk.
Because halodrol must be used at such a high dose to see noticeable effects, liver toxicity may become an issue. Therefore it is recommended to use a liver protecting supplement before and during halodrol cycles.
Gains from Halodrol generally take a few weeks to notice, but users can expect solid increases in strength, lean muscle mass, improved vascularity and minimal water retention. This allows some of the gains to be kept after the cycle if good diet and training are continued. Quick dramatic gains in size and strength are not generally noticed with Halodrol.
H-Drol is one of the most popular and proven compounds on the market and is considered good for beginners due to it's reputation for minimal side effects and dry gains that are relatively easy to maintain after the cycle is complete.
These guys are selling Helladrol (H-Drol) under a different name.
Price is obnoxious, but what's intersting, is that they make no mention of PCT and suggest a 8week on 4 week off cycle?!?
houseofmuscle.com/4chlorodiol.html
Read a fascinating article here:
predatornutrition.com/en/content/prohormones-a-comprehensive-guide-to-prohormones-updated/
Also, what Barnzy7 reported falls in line with almost all Halodrol / h-Drol / Helladrol / Turinabol articles I found.
Results start kicking in after week 3. I must have read 30 articles about this stuff and they pretty much all state something along the lines of a 10-20 lbs gain.
Also, it's low risk for gyno and almost no water retention.
So yeah, other stuff might gain more, but this is supposed to make LEAN gain, meaning it actually sicks around.
One actual user write up I found, stated the guy gained 10 lbs, and after everything was said and done kept 8.
That's 80% retention.
All sources agree that sides are minimal, back pumps can be combated with Taurine...
Looks like a winner to me.
This isn't a pro-hormone. It's a pro-steroid. The Germans won the olympics on this stuff. How bad can it be? lol
I decided to run Helladrol for a bulk cycle.
In this log I'll share my experience and give you a detailed low down on why I run what I run.
Hope this helps someone. At the very least it will help me be thorough and have one spot for all my data.
Starting stats:
Age - 29
Height - 5' 9"
Weight - 198.4 lbs
Body Fat - 28 %
My goals:
Gain 20 lbs
Don't gain any fat
My cycle:
1-6 Helladrol - 75 / 75 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100 (3*7 *2 + 4*7 *4) = 154 pills
1-6 N2 guard - 7 pills at night (294 pills)
1-6 5g Taurine (42 servings)
1-9 Forged Joint Repair - 2 pills (126 pills)
1-10 Creatine - 1 serving (70 servings) // On Hold
1-12 NAC - 2 pills daily (168 pills)
1-10 Forma Stanzol - 6 - 10 pumps a day = 420 - 700 pumps
7-10 Forged Post Cycle - 4 a day = 112 pills
7-10 Test Infusion - 6 a day (126 pills)
7-12 Premium Powders DAA - 1 serving (42 servings)
My shopping list:
N2guard - 2 bottles - 420 pills
Forged Joint Repair - 2 bottles - 120 pills
Helladrol - 1 bottle - 180 pills
Taurine (400g) - 2 bottle - 160 servings @ 5 g
Creatine (400g) - 1 bottle - 80 servings @ 5 g
Test Infusion - 1 bottle - 180 pills
Forma Stanzol - 1 bottle - 600 pumps
Premium Powders DAA Powder - 1 bottle - 90 servings 3g
Forged Post Cycle - 2 bottles - 150 pills
NAC - 2 bottles - 240 pills
All in all, a 530$ investment.
Add to that 3Js fee and a ton of food
Not a cheap date, but gotta pay to play.
My diet:
Coached by 3J. One less thing to worry about.
His diet is amazingly flexible.
Right now I'm at about 3500 cals a day. We'll see if and how that changes in the coming weeks.
My workout:
Also 3J's doing.
Reverse pyramid training (never tried that before).
Mon - Rest
Tue - Chest
Wed - Back
Thu - Shoulders
Fri - Legs
Sat - Arms
Sun - Rest
Why an oral only cycle:
Yes, i have read all the stickies, yes I know it's frowned upon around here, but I've done my research.
First and foremost: It's legal. Can't beat that.
Second: I'm too fat to safely pin test.
Why Halodrol:
Documented little to no sides. I found these claims in many articles online, as well as in the logs of fellow forum members.
Documented lean gains. Halodrol may not make the biggest gains, but the ones you get are lean, with little to no bloat and supposedly keepable. Again, I read this many, many times.
Forum members on here have reported 20+ lbs gains for 6 week cycles. Way milder dosed 4 week cycles have documented 10 lbs and more.
Why Helladrol:
Out of all the Halodrol supplemets I found, Helladrol had the best price per gram. Simple math.
Below are some of the things I found while looking around online. Please don't ask me where exactly, as I have probably read 200 articles / threads etc. before I decided on this cycle.
Some of this was taken from my posts in other threads.
Just thought I'd compile it all into one post.
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol (Halovar)
A clone of Halodrol (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3b,17b-diol)
Halodrol is a 17aa steroid that converts to the steroid oral Turinabol after interaction with 3b-HSD at an estimated rate of about 5%. Because of this low conversion, doses must be higher than other 17aa pro-steroids. However, it is suspected that Halodrol has decent potency without conversion as good results are seen despite the relatively low conversion to Turinabol. Halodrol appears to be about as potent as testosterone, and significantly less androgenic.
Because of the 4-chloro group, halodrol has no progestational effects, it cannot interact with the aromatase enzyme, and it produces inactive 4-chloro-DHT metabolites. This makes androgenic side-effects such as hair loss, high blood pressure, acne and prostate enlargement less likely.
The lack of androgenic potency might be expected to create problems with gyno, however the low SHBG binding affinity has minimal interference with SHBG levels and/or freely circuiting estrogen and testosterone. It does not appear that halodrol has a significant gyno risk.
Because halodrol must be used at such a high dose to see noticeable effects, liver toxicity may become an issue. Therefore it is recommended to use a liver protecting supplement before and during halodrol cycles.
Gains from Halodrol generally take a few weeks to notice, but users can expect solid increases in strength, lean muscle mass, improved vascularity and minimal water retention. This allows some of the gains to be kept after the cycle if good diet and training are continued. Quick dramatic gains in size and strength are not generally noticed with Halodrol.
H-Drol is one of the most popular and proven compounds on the market and is considered good for beginners due to it's reputation for minimal side effects and dry gains that are relatively easy to maintain after the cycle is complete.
These guys are selling Helladrol (H-Drol) under a different name.
Price is obnoxious, but what's intersting, is that they make no mention of PCT and suggest a 8week on 4 week off cycle?!?
houseofmuscle.com/4chlorodiol.html
Read a fascinating article here:
predatornutrition.com/en/content/prohormones-a-comprehensive-guide-to-prohormones-updated/
Also, what Barnzy7 reported falls in line with almost all Halodrol / h-Drol / Helladrol / Turinabol articles I found.
Results start kicking in after week 3. I must have read 30 articles about this stuff and they pretty much all state something along the lines of a 10-20 lbs gain.
Also, it's low risk for gyno and almost no water retention.
So yeah, other stuff might gain more, but this is supposed to make LEAN gain, meaning it actually sicks around.
One actual user write up I found, stated the guy gained 10 lbs, and after everything was said and done kept 8.
That's 80% retention.
All sources agree that sides are minimal, back pumps can be combated with Taurine...
Looks like a winner to me.
This isn't a pro-hormone. It's a pro-steroid. The Germans won the olympics on this stuff. How bad can it be? lol
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