1st Cycle Log: Helladrol / Halodrol / HDrol
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Not feeling lethargic really, I think it was just getting sand blasted and sun burnt in combination with a 6 hour hike that did me in. LOL
Day 8
A week ago I started this ride at 75 mg and 3 pumps.
No sides, so time to up it to 100 mg and 6 pumps.
Below please find my mass tracking sheet.
Few things to note here:
Blue - weight in kg
Red - linear projection of 20 lbs gains
Green - fat mass in kg
Purple - lean mass in kg
Cyan - lean mass projection
I do realize that Hella isn't doing much until week 3, so gains won't be linear, but hey, gotta start somewhere
Starting weight was 198.4 lbs now at 200 lbs. No real difference there, but looking at the bright side, I have hardly packed on any fat so far.
We'll see what the next couple weeks bring.
Also, the numbers on the x axis don't correlate to cycle days, as I started logging my weight 2 weeks prior to starting, to get a good feel for my baseline and normal fluctuations.
So look at the starting points of the projections for the start of the actual cycle.
Day 8
A week ago I started this ride at 75 mg and 3 pumps.
No sides, so time to up it to 100 mg and 6 pumps.
Below please find my mass tracking sheet.
Few things to note here:
Blue - weight in kg
Red - linear projection of 20 lbs gains
Green - fat mass in kg
Purple - lean mass in kg
Cyan - lean mass projection
I do realize that Hella isn't doing much until week 3, so gains won't be linear, but hey, gotta start somewhere
Starting weight was 198.4 lbs now at 200 lbs. No real difference there, but looking at the bright side, I have hardly packed on any fat so far.
We'll see what the next couple weeks bring.
Also, the numbers on the x axis don't correlate to cycle days, as I started logging my weight 2 weeks prior to starting, to get a good feel for my baseline and normal fluctuations.
So look at the starting points of the projections for the start of the actual cycle.
barnzy7
rome wasnt built in a day
Just hang in there, im sure if you read my whole log you saw how dissapointed I was until week 3 or 4....my tune changed quickly. You are on the right track, and dont be worried about any unwanted weight gain, dont forget you are eating a ton of food, if that is something you havent been used to your body will need to adapt. It is very common the initial increase in calories and meals causes a sudden weight gain, usually fat. As you adapt and start being accustomed to those extra calories your body will find a way to use them, especially being on a compound
I know what to expect. Still sucks. Haha
Today's chest day was a major success!
Weights up across the board and between exercises I could swear I look a little bit bigger when flexing. Might just be the excitement over the increased strength, who knows.
I think I am starting to experience some back pumps. Not super painful, but I feel something is different than off cycle in my lower back.
Will keep an eye on it and potentially up the Taurine.
Was in a rush to get to the gym today and forgot my pre WO Hella.
Can definitely feel the difference in pump. Pumps were still awesome, but not quite as full as when I take Hella 30 min prior to lifting.
Interesting, as I will use this knowledge to my advantage. Back days - hella post WO, other days - pre.
Also, I am developing either some sensitivity in my left nipple, or paranoia. One of the two.
Upped the Forma to 6 pumps today anyway, will keep an eye on it.
Today's chest day was a major success!
Weights up across the board and between exercises I could swear I look a little bit bigger when flexing. Might just be the excitement over the increased strength, who knows.
I think I am starting to experience some back pumps. Not super painful, but I feel something is different than off cycle in my lower back.
Will keep an eye on it and potentially up the Taurine.
Was in a rush to get to the gym today and forgot my pre WO Hella.
Can definitely feel the difference in pump. Pumps were still awesome, but not quite as full as when I take Hella 30 min prior to lifting.
Interesting, as I will use this knowledge to my advantage. Back days - hella post WO, other days - pre.
Also, I am developing either some sensitivity in my left nipple, or paranoia. One of the two.
Upped the Forma to 6 pumps today anyway, will keep an eye on it.
Day 9
Sides report:
- Back Pumps: Yeah, now I know what these are as well. Not terrible yet, but definitely noticeable.
The weird part is, they don't hurt as much during actual back WOs like deads, as they do during exercises where your lower back stabilizes your body, such as rows.
Will keep an eye on them and might up the Taurine. Currently at 5 gs once a day.
- Balls: Not as big as they used to be. Pretty sure of that...
- Itchy Nipples: Not 100% sure on this one, but I think I feel something. Upped the Forma already. Will monitor this VERY closely and adjust dosage as needed.
I will most likely need a 2nd bottle. Just so you guys know. If you're prone to gyno - get two bottles for peace of mind - cheap insurance.
Back day was great. No major improvements in weights, but some. Felt great though. Very satisfying workout.
I also think I look quite a bit bigger when I flex in front of a mirror.
Asked my buddy at the gym today if he noticed anything yet and without hesitation he nodded right away and said: "heck yeah!".
Weird, because the numbers on my mass tracking sheet don't reflect the change as much...
And in case you think it's all water (which it might be), by scale has not shown increased water weight at all...
Sides report:
- Back Pumps: Yeah, now I know what these are as well. Not terrible yet, but definitely noticeable.
The weird part is, they don't hurt as much during actual back WOs like deads, as they do during exercises where your lower back stabilizes your body, such as rows.
Will keep an eye on them and might up the Taurine. Currently at 5 gs once a day.
- Balls: Not as big as they used to be. Pretty sure of that...
- Itchy Nipples: Not 100% sure on this one, but I think I feel something. Upped the Forma already. Will monitor this VERY closely and adjust dosage as needed.
I will most likely need a 2nd bottle. Just so you guys know. If you're prone to gyno - get two bottles for peace of mind - cheap insurance.
Back day was great. No major improvements in weights, but some. Felt great though. Very satisfying workout.
I also think I look quite a bit bigger when I flex in front of a mirror.
Asked my buddy at the gym today if he noticed anything yet and without hesitation he nodded right away and said: "heck yeah!".
Weird, because the numbers on my mass tracking sheet don't reflect the change as much...
And in case you think it's all water (which it might be), by scale has not shown increased water weight at all...
barnzy7
rome wasnt built in a day
Hell Yeah! I had the same issues, 99% of the time my back pumps happend at work or doing stupid shit. You probably are looking bigger, I noticed hella liked to shed some fat, Im still holding my weight pretty steady as well as strength but I can see that body composition is changing slightly
Can't wait for it to really kick in.
The gains, not the back pumps. LOL
Had no issues with BPs today. The weird thing is, that my arms look bigger flexed for example, but my relaxed arm measurements are actually going down?!
Kinda falls in line with what you are saying, shredding fat a little and all. In general, my shoulders / chest look a lot better.
Might be the forma as well...
Speaking of which, the pump in my fucking bottle is dying! Great for getting consistent dosages :/ Not
Day 10
Shoulder day. Added ABS. Killer workout. Weights slightly up again.
Pumps weren't very intense though... Maybe my body adjusts to the hella? If they keep being this meh the next couple days, I may throw in some pre-WO nox booster.
The gains, not the back pumps. LOL
Had no issues with BPs today. The weird thing is, that my arms look bigger flexed for example, but my relaxed arm measurements are actually going down?!
Kinda falls in line with what you are saying, shredding fat a little and all. In general, my shoulders / chest look a lot better.
Might be the forma as well...
Speaking of which, the pump in my fucking bottle is dying! Great for getting consistent dosages :/ Not
Day 10
Shoulder day. Added ABS. Killer workout. Weights slightly up again.
Pumps weren't very intense though... Maybe my body adjusts to the hella? If they keep being this meh the next couple days, I may throw in some pre-WO nox booster.
barnzy7
rome wasnt built in a day
Haha so funny man...I never included this in my log...but my pump died as well. I ended up unscrewing the cap and wiping it on myself haha. And about weak 2 I started using a pre-workout mainly because I wasnt sold on hella, give noxi-pro from MR. Supps a try. Its an awesome pwo. Just dont get the chrome if you go that route, its a "revised" formula and is no where near as potent
You pay 60 bucks for testosterone hair gel, you-d think they could spend another 25 cents to get the one model up Chinese pump bottle...
LOL
I've got NOFury and NanoX9 pills still. I think they would do excellent with Hella.
Tomorrow is arm day, I'll pop 4 Nanos and 2 Hellas pre WO. We'll see what that does.
Day 11
Leg day. Went well. Nothing special to report.
Literally limped out of the gym when I was done.
Don't need any more pump than I'm getting on leg and back day, but chest, arms and shoulder could use some extra kick.
Will try how Nanox9 works and if it doesn't, I might look into alternatives...
No sides right now.
Feeling like a boss.
LOL
I've got NOFury and NanoX9 pills still. I think they would do excellent with Hella.
Tomorrow is arm day, I'll pop 4 Nanos and 2 Hellas pre WO. We'll see what that does.
Day 11
Leg day. Went well. Nothing special to report.
Literally limped out of the gym when I was done.
Don't need any more pump than I'm getting on leg and back day, but chest, arms and shoulder could use some extra kick.
Will try how Nanox9 works and if it doesn't, I might look into alternatives...
No sides right now.
Feeling like a boss.
Day 13
Off.
Feeling good. Sore, but in a good way.
Seems my body is recovering faster than it used to. Wonder if that's got something to do with the Halo.
Don't remember reading much about sped up recovery, but it sure seems like it does help.
There is no question about whether or not I am gaining at this point.
Gains start to be clearly visible. Most notably (to me anyways) are my trapezius muscles and my quads.
Shoulders / chest / arms look thicker too, but not to the extend of the other two mentioned muscles.
As far as sides go, nothing is bothering me right now.
My nipple sensitivity may have had something to do with my chest hair / shirt rub from lots of golfing.
Being that my wife is gone, I only trim my chest every other week and the hair comes in like little needles... Combine that with 6 hours of walking and swinging and it may leave a mark LOL
There is no doubt though that something has changed. In my case, that's actually a good thing, as after my gyno surgery my nipple went dead.
Haven't felt the thing in almost 6 years. Now the nerves are back apparently... Felt weird as hell at first LOL
Done cooking 10 lbs of chicken. May just kick back and relax today, or go golfing... We shall see.
Off.
Feeling good. Sore, but in a good way.
Seems my body is recovering faster than it used to. Wonder if that's got something to do with the Halo.
Don't remember reading much about sped up recovery, but it sure seems like it does help.
There is no question about whether or not I am gaining at this point.
Gains start to be clearly visible. Most notably (to me anyways) are my trapezius muscles and my quads.
Shoulders / chest / arms look thicker too, but not to the extend of the other two mentioned muscles.
As far as sides go, nothing is bothering me right now.
My nipple sensitivity may have had something to do with my chest hair / shirt rub from lots of golfing.
Being that my wife is gone, I only trim my chest every other week and the hair comes in like little needles... Combine that with 6 hours of walking and swinging and it may leave a mark LOL
There is no doubt though that something has changed. In my case, that's actually a good thing, as after my gyno surgery my nipple went dead.
Haven't felt the thing in almost 6 years. Now the nerves are back apparently... Felt weird as hell at first LOL
Done cooking 10 lbs of chicken. May just kick back and relax today, or go golfing... We shall see.
Day 14
Off. Hate off days. Need my pump damnit! haha
Went ahead and played 21 holes yesterday. Good times.
Need to figure out a good "on the road" food solution though...
Sucks if I can't run my regular eating routine. Had to stay up till midnight to catch up on my eating. LOL
Gains are coming in nicely. Considering Hella isn't supposed to kick in till week 3, I'm pretty darn happy.
Tomorrow will be the first day of week 3. I'll post my mass chart again.
Changed it some, so it makes more sense to you guys.
Off. Hate off days. Need my pump damnit! haha
Went ahead and played 21 holes yesterday. Good times.
Need to figure out a good "on the road" food solution though...
Sucks if I can't run my regular eating routine. Had to stay up till midnight to catch up on my eating. LOL
Gains are coming in nicely. Considering Hella isn't supposed to kick in till week 3, I'm pretty darn happy.
Tomorrow will be the first day of week 3. I'll post my mass chart again.
Changed it some, so it makes more sense to you guys.
Day 15
Chest day.
Will try 5 nano pills and 2 halos pre-WO today and see if that gets me the pump I'm after.
Here's my latest mass chart.
View attachment 556149
As daily weight values fluctuate a lot, I added a weekly average.
Makes it easier to look at.
Also, a pattern is emerging. Pretty happy thus far. First day of week 3. Gains are supposed to start kicking in soon.
//edit: Holy shit!
Chest day was sick. Pumps were meh again, even though I used 5 nanos and 2 Halos, but strength went way up!
Excited to see what the rest of the week holds, because today was epic. Used my 4 rep weight from last week and banged out 8... WTF?
Chest day.
Will try 5 nano pills and 2 halos pre-WO today and see if that gets me the pump I'm after.
Here's my latest mass chart.
View attachment 556149
As daily weight values fluctuate a lot, I added a weekly average.
Makes it easier to look at.
Also, a pattern is emerging. Pretty happy thus far. First day of week 3. Gains are supposed to start kicking in soon.
//edit: Holy shit!
Chest day was sick. Pumps were meh again, even though I used 5 nanos and 2 Halos, but strength went way up!
Excited to see what the rest of the week holds, because today was epic. Used my 4 rep weight from last week and banged out 8... WTF?
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Day 16
Back.
Mixed bag WO.
Weights and reps went up. All nice and dandy, but the way deads went kinda ruined my mood.
Started out good, added 20 lbs to the warmup weight, added 10 to my 4 reps weight and pulled 5 reps, but then the fun stopped.
Even though I used cross grip and chalk, I could not hold on to the damn bar to save my life :/
Same story for the 6 and 8 rep set. Got 5 on both of those, even though I know I would have had the proper reps in me.
Since chalk has worked so well until this point, I didn't pack the straps. Note to self - keep em in the bag as a back up.
Other than that, things are good. No sides, decent visual gains. Strength is up.
Can't wait for next week! Will probably up the dosage to 125 for the last 3 weeks, pending sides of course.
Back.
Mixed bag WO.
Weights and reps went up. All nice and dandy, but the way deads went kinda ruined my mood.
Started out good, added 20 lbs to the warmup weight, added 10 to my 4 reps weight and pulled 5 reps, but then the fun stopped.
Even though I used cross grip and chalk, I could not hold on to the damn bar to save my life :/
Same story for the 6 and 8 rep set. Got 5 on both of those, even though I know I would have had the proper reps in me.
Since chalk has worked so well until this point, I didn't pack the straps. Note to self - keep em in the bag as a back up.
Other than that, things are good. No sides, decent visual gains. Strength is up.
Can't wait for next week! Will probably up the dosage to 125 for the last 3 weeks, pending sides of course.
Thanks man!
Yeah, it's been pretty awesome so far.
I can definitely see a difference. No doubt about it.
Probably the most is in my delts, quads and trapezious muscles.
Day 17
Shoulder Day.
Dumbbells present a challenge, due to their poor resolution. Right now, I'm between weights on 2 exercises. Hate when that happens. LOL
Pumps were insane today. To the point where I was in serious pain halfway through the sets... And that without any NO boosters I might add.
Kind of odd, how erratic my body responds to the hella pump wise.
The master ordered an additional 300 cals for next week. Bringing me up to 3800.
Super excited about week 4-6. Those are supposed to be the best after all.
Virtually no sides right now. Back pumps are barely worth mentioning.
If this continues, I'll try 125 for the final 3 weeks.
Yeah, it's been pretty awesome so far.
I can definitely see a difference. No doubt about it.
Probably the most is in my delts, quads and trapezious muscles.
Day 17
Shoulder Day.
Dumbbells present a challenge, due to their poor resolution. Right now, I'm between weights on 2 exercises. Hate when that happens. LOL
Pumps were insane today. To the point where I was in serious pain halfway through the sets... And that without any NO boosters I might add.
Kind of odd, how erratic my body responds to the hella pump wise.
The master ordered an additional 300 cals for next week. Bringing me up to 3800.
Super excited about week 4-6. Those are supposed to be the best after all.
Virtually no sides right now. Back pumps are barely worth mentioning.
If this continues, I'll try 125 for the final 3 weeks.
Day 18
Leg day.
Ridiculous pumps again. No NO booster. I am starting to think, that pumps with hella are solely a function of timing.
As in - how much time passes before you start lifting. Looks like 30 minutes is the sweet spot.
Weights up. Great WO. No complaints, but so much pain it's ridiculous.
No sides, no issues. Feeling great.
Back pumps are not a problem, I can feel them, but they are far from incapacitating like some other members experienced.
Allmost half way point here. One more WO in week 3. Gonna be good.
Leg day.
Ridiculous pumps again. No NO booster. I am starting to think, that pumps with hella are solely a function of timing.
As in - how much time passes before you start lifting. Looks like 30 minutes is the sweet spot.
Weights up. Great WO. No complaints, but so much pain it's ridiculous.
No sides, no issues. Feeling great.
Back pumps are not a problem, I can feel them, but they are far from incapacitating like some other members experienced.
Allmost half way point here. One more WO in week 3. Gonna be good.
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Day 19
Arms.
Oh god yeah! Pumps were incredible. 30 minutes prior seems to do the trick.
On the super sets I had trouble breaking through 18 reps, not because I ran out of steam, just because I had a hard time managing the pain.
Awesome.
Weights up across the board.
This concludes the WOs of week 3. Tuesday is the first day for week 4.
No sides right now, will attempt to run the last 3 weeks at 125 halo.
Will up the taurine to 10 g, as a preemptive strike if you will...
Cals up to 3800 for next week.
Fingers crossed, let the gains begin.
Hopefully...
Arms.
Oh god yeah! Pumps were incredible. 30 minutes prior seems to do the trick.
On the super sets I had trouble breaking through 18 reps, not because I ran out of steam, just because I had a hard time managing the pain.
Awesome.
Weights up across the board.
This concludes the WOs of week 3. Tuesday is the first day for week 4.
No sides right now, will attempt to run the last 3 weeks at 125 halo.
Will up the taurine to 10 g, as a preemptive strike if you will...
Cals up to 3800 for next week.
Fingers crossed, let the gains begin.
Hopefully...
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