1st time cycle for a youngin!?!

[AP2]

Hey all, I agree w/what the mods and vets on this board say about what to do on the first time cycle. Anyhow, I have a one-dimensional friend of mine who decided to enter our "world" w/the following:


WK 1-12: 500mg Test Enan QV
WK 1-12: 400mg EQ SydGrp
WK 1-5: 30mg Dbol Brititsh Dragon.

He will do what he wants. Bastard won't listen to me. I mean, it's not a bad cycle or nothing, but I like to see first timers use test only as well. He wanted to do higher doses, but at least talked him down to this amount of each.

With all the knowledge on this board, what do you all think? Good to go?

He is 25yrs old, about 5'11"..... Skinny little shit. Probably about 160lbs. "No disrespect" and IMO has about 10-12%BF... Reply posts would be appreciated. Therefore, I can try and coach him on his pros and cons. Thanks fellow brothers!!!

AP2

 

[house1]

if he has his mind set on it and you cant change it, then just be there for him.

make sure he has some anti'es on hand and school him on pct.

help him set up his injection schedule

mon--250 test--200eq
thurs--250 test--200eq

split the dbol up throughout the day

 

[mvmaxx]

Just have Nolvadex on hand.

 

[AP2]

Thx bros. I didn't think about splitting the shots up. I'll have him do that. Like you said House1, he does have his mind set, therefore, I'll be there for my bro. mvmaxx, yeah bro, he does have Nolvadex and Clomid on hand. Thanks for looking out!

AP2

 

[kube]

just bullshit him. are you a good bullshit artist? just tell him he will gain more on his first cycle if he used only test. tell him all that shit will saturate and spill out of his muscle cells, confuse his receptor sites and diminish satellite activity at a cellular level. causing more growth but to less muscle cells overall. and tell him he will lose a ton of that weight because the satellite cells will be too small to support the grown muscle cells. bullshit him bro, especially if he has no time training, or worse... no discipline. not only will you save him some cash but you will be preventing him from possibly fucking himself up and giving everyone who uses gear a bad name. just for that i would kick the shit out of him and tell him the beatings will continue if you use all that shit. listen to me or i will kick your ass. if he is how you say he will have no idea what youre talking about and think it is all scientific and shit.

 

[kube]

and dont tell him to split up the shots either. convince him that with all that shit he will have to inject daily or eod. if hes uncomfortable with injectiing himself like 90 percent of everyone doing their first cycle, he will probably lean over towards the above explanations. yeah, im mean sometimes. bullshitting people.

 

[AP2]

just bullshit him. are you a good bullshit artist? just tell him he will gain more on his first cycle if he used only test. tell him all that shit will saturate and spill out of his muscle cells, confuse his receptor sites and diminish satellite activity at a cellular level. causing more growth but to less muscle cells overall. and tell him he will lose a ton of that weight because the satellite cells will be too small to support the grown muscle cells. bullshit him bro, especially if he has no time training, or worse... no discipline. not only will you save him some cash but you will be preventing him from possibly fucking himself up and giving everyone who uses gear a bad name. just for that i would kick the shit out of him and tell him the beatings will continue if you use all that shit. listen to me or i will kick your ass. if he is how you say he will have no idea what youre talking about and think it is all scientific and shit.

LOL!!!! That's funny! I know he wouldn't know those concepts you posted. Dumb ass spent big bucks because I refused to refer him to someone. Kinda like buying shit off a corner I guess. He got seriously raped on his gear. I could only laugh my ass off.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

tell him all that shit will saturate and spill out of his muscle cells, confuse his receptor sites and diminish satellite activity at a cellular level. causing more growth but to less muscle cells overall. and tell him he will lose a ton of that weight because the satellite cells will be too small to support the grown muscle cells.

Yep......bullshit baffles brains everytime.......

 

[BUFFDAWG10]

Support him as much as you can.........just as we give advice everyday, we can only suggest and give our opinion, but we can't force people to listen to us. Some people have to learn the hard way, hopefully he does well on the cycle. The only thing that bothers me about a first cycle like this.......what will his next cycle look like and future ones?? Definitely try to guide him in the right direction and give him the proper knowlege he needs to achieve his desired goals. Also you have to reinforce to him that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is only a small part of the building process. He needs to know that the KEY is DIET, TRAINING HABITS, & REST!!!! Before he even starts with the AAS, these 3 things need to be in check!

 

[kube]

very true about training habits diet and rest buffdawg. but thats obviously not the case with his boy. hes gonna get what he wants, but for how long? id rather bullshit him and if he still wont sway i would have my fuckin fun with him. making him inject in the anal pore like some poor fuck posted once. between the toes when his ass gets really soar from the eod shots i had recommended. nothing that would kill him or have him in the ER, just little experiments that would benefit the bodybuilding community like finding out if spot injections in the feet lead to a bigger shoe size or just abcesses. all in the name of science of course.

 

[Golden_Muscle]

He will end up with nothing in the end. So he can take what ever he wants.

I dumbell press 160lb dumbells for reps (each the weight of your buddy) , and im 5'11 22yrs old.

The guy needs to do more naturally, but obviously doesnt have it in him so who cares.

Tell him GOOD LUCK from GM!