1st time Tren cycle (Cutting cycle) / Hairloss possibility?

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brianyap

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Hey guys,
need you opinions on this cycle. This will be the first time im gonna do tren.
i've tried several cycles already... did test enanthate twice already and anavar-primo cycle once with good results. I want to try tren-test but I have several questions before I do this.

Stats: 30 y/o, 5'7 150lbs, 14% bf, been working out for 10 years or more.

Here are my questions:
1. Acetate or Enanthate? I read that Enanthate users experience less side effects.
2. Low dose test (150mg-200mg/week)- test replacement dose only is enought o make the cycle good. Since im doing this to get leaner not really bulk, would this level be enough?
3. Hairloss - I've done test-e twice but never had any hairloss... will it be more or less the same with tren? Is it possible to use Finatraide with Tren?
4. Acne - What's the best way to control acne during tren-test cycle? Accutane? Pantothenic Acid?
5. How much of the gains will I be able to keep, assuming good post cycle therapy (pct)? Is HCG a must for PCT?

I plan to do an 8-10 week Cutting cycle that looks something like this:

Week Tren Acetate Testosterone Prop Arimidex Dostinex
1 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD
2 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD
3 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD
4 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD
5 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD
6 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD
7 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD
8 200mgs / week 200mgs / week 1mg ED 0.25mgs EOD

im only doing 200mg/week of Tren because I have a relatively small built and I just want to get a more solid look and not bulk.
Comments?

Thanks!
 
1. Definitely go with tren ace seeing as this is your first run. Your tren dose isn't too high but some people respond very poorly to tren so if you run ace the sides are always gone in a couple days...not a few weeks.

2.150-200mg's of test is fine. Everything will function normally.

3. I don't lose hair with any AAS but I have friends that lose significantly more hair on tren than just test, it's a personal thing, gonna have to see how you respond. I wouldn't messed with finasteride, much better going to the dermatologist and getting some nizoral 2% shampoo, I know for a lot of people nizoral is a godsend.

4. Again, it's totally genetic but if you are anything like me you are going to need something good to combat acne while running tren. If you can get accutane, use it!!! I haven't met a cycle yet that I couldn't keep the acne away with two showers a day, tanning a couple times a week, and 80mg of accutane a day.

5. Gains from tren are very dry so this would be one of the more keepable cycles in terms of gains, you're not gonna come off and lose 10lbs of water. I would argue hcg is a must with all cycles(why not??) but especially with tren(a 19-nor) you will really want to run it for the duration of the cycle because tren is going to shut you down hard. When I run tren I run hcg during the cycle as well as a blast prior to post cycle therapy (pct), never had any trouble recovering at all with that method. The only problem with tren, and similarly with deca, is that even when the compound has theoretically cleared your body, the metabolites are still kicking around for a while long. That being said, you NEED to run your prop a minimum of 1 week longer than your tren, and if it were me I'd say two week longer. I would argue it's better to stay on one week longer, let the tren really get out of your body, and have a much more successful PCT and an easier time recovering.

Two other things, unless you are CRAZY sensitive to estro that is WAY too much adex. Tren doesn't convert to estro and you are running very little test so you won't have much estro floating around as it is. I would suggest running your adex at .25mg eod and see how that feels, that should be g2g for the cycle.

Secondly, how did you like the results of your primo/var cycle?
 
Cool. Thanks for the info.
One questio though, how much hcg do i need to run throughout the cycle? I read you said blast prior to pct-- meaning i dont use it anymore during pct?

It's the acne that worries me because i had moderate acne on my second cycle of test-e. However, I asked my derma and she recommended me taking a dose of 20mg/weekly at least a month prior to my cycle for "prophylaxis" hope it works.
Also, reason why I'm taking adex at that level is because on my first cycle of test-e, i took adex before and during the cycle and I didnt really break out much, whereas the 2nd cycle, didnt do adex and i broke out like crazy. Do all sides of tren (hairloss and acne) go away when u stop the cycle? With test-e, i broke out on my last weeks of the cycle and a few months after.

I had very good gains from Anavar (var) /Primo cycle. I''m off it already for 3 months and Im able to keep about 70% of my gains in both mass and strength. Anavar (var) doesn't really shut me down and had bloodwork done before and prior and my testosterone is still higher than normal, so I guess I was able to recover well from that cycle. I ran ana Anavar (var) /primo for a good 10 weeks with no problem.

thades said:
1. Definitely go with tren ace seeing as this is your first run. Your tren dose isn't too high but some people respond very poorly to tren so if you run ace the sides are always gone in a couple days...not a few weeks.

2.150-200mg's of test is fine. Everything will function normally.

3. I don't lose hair with any AAS but I have friends that lose significantly more hair on tren than just test, it's a personal thing, gonna have to see how you respond. I wouldn't messed with finasteride, much better going to the dermatologist and getting some nizoral 2% shampoo, I know for a lot of people nizoral is a godsend.

4. Again, it's totally genetic but if you are anything like me you are going to need something good to combat acne while running tren. If you can get accutane, use it!!! I haven't met a cycle yet that I couldn't keep the acne away with two showers a day, tanning a couple times a week, and 80mg of accutane a day.

5. Gains from tren are very dry so this would be one of the more keepable cycles in terms of gains, you're not gonna come off and lose 10lbs of water. I would argue hcg is a must with all cycles(why not??) but especially with tren(a 19-nor) you will really want to run it for the duration of the cycle because tren is going to shut you down hard. When I run tren I run hcg during the cycle as well as a blast prior to post cycle therapy (pct), never had any trouble recovering at all with that method. The only problem with tren, and similarly with deca, is that even when the compound has theoretically cleared your body, the metabolites are still kicking around for a while long. That being said, you NEED to run your prop a minimum of 1 week longer than your tren, and if it were me I'd say two week longer. I would argue it's better to stay on one week longer, let the tren really get out of your body, and have a much more successful PCT and an easier time recovering.

Two other things, unless you are CRAZY sensitive to estro that is WAY too much adex. Tren doesn't convert to estro and you are running very little test so you won't have much estro floating around as it is. I would suggest running your adex at .25mg eod and see how that feels, that should be g2g for the cycle.

Secondly, how did you like the results of your primo/ Anavar (var) cycle?
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