1st Timer - Conflicting info on deca

[GApeach]

I'm trying to educate myself so I can do my first cycle next month. I've been researching this for a while now... over a year. I've read many conflicting message boards and I'm becoming frustrated. Some said deca was mild, others said deca was too strong. Several people suggested stacking with win, and others said it was too strong for a newbie. I've seen people say women don't need to take anything when coming off deca since it's not test, and others say they should. Now, I see lots of women on here raving about var. I've really tried to educate myself as best I can, but I'm feeling pretty overwhelmed at this point.

I asked some trainers (pro BB) on the DL about what they might recommend, and they agreed deca was mild and a good start for me. After doing my research and talking with a few ppl, I ordered deca. I haven't started taking it yet because I can't stop reading all the messages boards on diff sites. Most are posts by men, so I hope I can get some better 1st hand info here.

So, ladies, what do I believe? Can I do deca alone since I'm female and I don't want to take test? Can I stack deca and var? I've already ordered the deca, so I'd like to use it and maybe stack it with something else IF that's even necessary. I really wanted to do an easy/mild first cycle to see what I can get out of it. If I can't get clear guidance, I'm not interested in taking it.

I just dropped 50 lbs last year, and I have a bit more to lose. My diet is 100% clean, so that hasn't been an issue in 8 mos or more. Very determined. Serious about physique comp this year or next.

Age: 30
Height: 5'4"
Weight: 150 lbs (77.1 kg)
Diet: 1750 cals, 46g fat, 145g carbs, 190g protein
Training: 3-4 yrs

I really appreciate any advice y'all can give! TY!

 

[tbonexl]

I'm no expert on women and gear but i don't think I would recommend deca. Sure the fuck wouldn't recommend it as a first cycle for u. U would be way better off doing just var. Keep mgs low.

 

[psizzle_8]

Have you considered NPP? It's the short ester version of deca. As women we have to be careful with long esters, if you start experiencing sides it'll take longer for it to leave your system. NPP leaves sooner, so you'll be able to stop it sooner if you don't like it.

It all depends on your goals of course. I ran NPP when size was my goal and loved it.

 

[GApeach]

Thanks for the replies!

psizzle, I really hadn't even thought about NPP because I didn't see it mentioned as frequently as some others. Have you used var? In your opinion, are they both as effective? I'm not looking for something crazy my first cycle of course, but I do want to make sure my money is well spent. Thx!

 

[psizzle_8]

Well of course they're both effective silly

But it's comparing apples to oranges. You'll be getting different results. And yes I've tried just about everything you can think of.

NPP- I gained a ton of size, little to no water, and became an evil bitch. This was the only compound that really effected my moods. It was bad, nandrolones can do that to some
Anavar- I don't really gain size and I've taken high doses. I take it during prep for a show, it helps me to fill out while I trim down. I feel fantastic on it

Try researching a little more, friend. Don't take something just because it's the only thing you think exists

 

[ChrisWho?]

Dec for a first time imo is a little much. My fiance ran numerous var cycles with great results and 1 cycle of nandrolone decanoate at 20mg a week. Gains were great with no retention but her body fat is low. Main two sides was her voice becoming raspy (family members thought she was sick) and slight clitoral(sp?) growth. I'd stay away from winstrol, nandrolone is highly anabolic and very low on the androgenic scale but don't let it fool you.

Whatever you do, don't stack anything for a first and be on with some changes and minor hair growth also. I would honestly work harder at dropping your bf before touching anything.

 

[carverelli]

Thanks for the replies!

psizzle, I really hadn't even thought about NPP because I didn't see it mentioned as frequently as some others. Have you used var? In your opinion, are they both as effective? I'm not looking for something crazy my first cycle of course, but I do want to make sure my money is well spent. Thx!

Not an expert by any means, but anavar seems to be the first compound women try when wanting a boost in size, strength with few side effects. If you want to try a nandrolone I would go with npp like mentioned previously, that way you can bail if sides get to be too much and the drug is out of your system in days not weeks. Deca takes awhile to build up in your system and equally as long to exit. That's not you want when undesirable side manifest.
Low dose primo and test prop is another option. But I'd do var first. Start small (5mg) and increase 5mg every week. 20 mg/day is a big dose for most gals. 10 mg may be all you need