21, Need Advice on Recovery or TRT

[TunnelSnake]

Hey guys, I'm 21 and recently got off a cycle. If I could go back I would've definitely waited until I'm 25, but no one could've told me otherwise. I'm one of those people who always have to find out for themselves; live and learn you know. Also, I hope this is in the right forum section, I wasn't sure.

Here was the cycle.


1-12 weeks: Test-C 600mg
2-10 weeks: Deca 400mg
1-4 weeks: Dbol 50mg ed

AI: as needed through cycle

PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20 ed, 2 weeks after last pin of Test-C
Tribulus ed
(No hcg was used)


This was my third cycle, and I never had an issue recovering in the past; at least not to this level. I have all the symptoms of low-T, depressed "down" feeling, hard time concentrating, very low libido, poor erections, low energy, fat gain etc.. I feel horrible. I got my total testosterone checked by private med labs and it came out to 368. The reference range was 348-1197 ng/dl. Ouch. It will have been 6 weeks since my last pin in a couple days.

I have never felt this bad/experienced this after a cycle before, I only have a couple days left before my PCT ends ( Yes, the BW was done during PCT). I don't think those last few days will drastically change my T-levels, but I could be wrong. I hate feeling this way, it's been hard enough dealing with this the last 4 weeks. I don't want to act too quickly and jump towards a quick fix, but at the same time I don't want to be waiting for a recovery that might not come or be stuck like this for 4-6 months.

Should I continue waiting this out to see if I recover naturally or should I pursue self-medication/TRT? And if so, how long should I wait?

 

[TunnelSnake]

I should add, that I talked to a couple TRT places and they told me that with my age being so young, it would be more difficult to get a prescription and have insurance clear it too. Being 21, I'm also not rolling money so that is another obstacle in pursuing TRT. I don't honestly know if I could realistically afford it.

 

[Mprtz]

Yes of course you should wait longer to see if you recover (which you probably will), instead of committing to lifelong medication at 21.

 

[Jimstigator]

I was on nolva/tamoxifen for years to keep my T up. Consider trying a nolva or Clomid restart for a while. If nolva, a starting dose of 40mg a day, lowered over time, can work wonders. Even 5mg a day can work wonders. I personally think restarts fail because people don't stick with it long enough. My only side on nolva is loss of libido, but that beats all of your issues.

Jim

 

[JT19]

Nlova by itself is never recommended. To soon to say you wont recover to optimum levels. Wait another month or so..if yur still mucked do a second pct with clomid and nolva for 4-5 weeks. Then see what happens. I know how shitty it is to feel like that at 21 man. I have fore over a year. I havent got my levels past 560 in over a year. All i took was a shitty prohormone for 3 weeks. Been a battle. Don't make any drastic decitions. Keep calm and ride it out and take the neccessary actions along the way !

 

[Jimstigator]

I disagree. Nolva by itself, over time, can restart just like clomid. I would actually argue the opposite, combo of nolva and Clomid is unnecessary as both are working the same mechanism. There are some top Dr's using solely nolva for a restart. The exception being if estrogen is too high and an AI is needed.

Anyway... Take it for what you will. Clomid made me cry, nolva got my T to over 900 for years.

Jim

 

[3J]

i would do a hcg/clomid restart personally.. it cant hurt

 

[Jimstigator]

Everyone has a serm preference... The point to take from all this - try a restart, not TRT.

Jim

 

[ezed413]

Yeah man, you are way too young to go on TRT. You will recover over time.

 

[TunnelSnake]

I appreciate all of the feedback . Since you are recommending waiting it out and using a SERM, do you have any time frame for how long I should be waiting? I know patience is a virtue, but I couldn't imagine sticking this out for much longer.