23 - Blood Test Results - Low T - High Estro?

605 sounds mid-higher range to me, depending on age (my last test showed a healthy range of 300-800). I didn't even consider Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) until I dropped to 172 ng. I'd love to have 400-600, the free test to go with it and avoid HRT. I guess how everyone "feels" at different levels is going to be different though.

At 21 I'd just run a natty booster, if your still "feeling" low test like symtoms with a high test level maybe it's something else causing them.
 
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lowtguy said:
Well, 605 is low but it'd be tough to get on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with that level. Most guys that get on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) are 400 or below.

Check that link too, it provides some good products to research on sites like pubmed and anywhere else you can see that there are some scientific studies backing the effectiveness of the product.
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605 on a LabCorp 280-800 scale certainly ISN'T low imo.
 
hmm, you guys are right: it wouldn't be considered optimal, but it isn't necessarily low.

like I said before, I'd look at OTC stuff to boost you up.

also, if your free T is low then you may be dealing with erection and libido issues. and if you're dealing with other low t things like depression, I'd lean more towards pills that help with that.

also, if your sleep is off it could be affecting your T level. but overall, with a score of 605 I would not think about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), and would instead focus on how I can raise it naturally through diet, lifestyle, and exercise (with proper recovery times---no 5 day/week splits).

in other news, I received a new thing of HCG today and will be injecting tomo morning.

one more thing--- mods, I plan on updating this thread as time goes on... perhaps it should be moved to the journal section so it doesn't keep bumping up to the top of the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum. I have no issues with that, but it may annoy others.
 
lowtguy said:
Well, 605 is low but it'd be tough to get on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with that level. Most guys that get on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) are 400 or below.

Check that link too, it provides some good products to research on sites like pubmed and anywhere else you can see that there are some scientific studies backing the effectiveness of the product.
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the bad thing is im on blood pessure med's im in shape,i eat clean and i have every test possible to see what is causing the high bp sucks man these pills make me all fatigued n depressed n shit....
 
Chop, I don't know much about BP but I'd get on forums and try to find others with your condition. Shouldn't be too hard.

Update on HCG: I injected the new HCG this morning. I've masturbated twice today (previously was doing it once every 2 days) and my sack felt more full. My testicles might be larger but it isn't obvious like it was before... so it could really all be placebo. I'll have to give it until the end of this 6th week of shots (I shoot Thu (today), Sat, and Mon) to really judge if there is a difference between the "just-mixed" HCG and the 35-day-old HCG. I'll keep this thread updated.
 
JOWS6 said:
Did you masturbate because you felt an increase in libido after shootin'?
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Yes. Again, today I've noticed a definite boost in libido. It is most likely the new HCG, but I'm not 100% sure of it, as something like this could be a placebo effect. My testicles seem to be hanging lower, which means an increase in size, though they still don't feel as large as before. I'll keep updating as I do my second shot tomorrow and third on Monday.

I also feel like the small motivational boost I had during weeks 1.5-3.5 has come back. Again though, hard to measure and confirm whether it is a placebo effect or actually due to the HCG. We'll see.
 
G'Day LowTGuy,

Just thought Id say your video's are/will go along way for people starting out, I will continue to watch them

Keep up the good work mate
 
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^ thanks bro. I hope they do too

I wanted to chime in again here. My balls definitely feel bigger. I also noticed yesterday that I couldn't keep my eyes off girls at school. Every time I looked at a girl I imagined myself banging her. I felt this way with the first vial of HCG but stopped towards the end of the 30 days and on. So it seems the HCG I'm using is optimal for 30 days and should be tossed after as the package states.
 
lowtguy said:
^ thanks bro. I hope they do too

I wanted to chime in again here. My balls definitely feel bigger. I also noticed yesterday that I couldn't keep my eyes off girls at school. Every time I looked at a girl I imagined myself banging her. I felt this way with the first vial of HCG but stopped towards the end of the 30 days and on. So it seems the HCG I'm using is optimal for 30 days and should be tossed after as the package states.
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That's great to hear man. Are all of the bottles of HcG packaged in the same size container? If they come in 2 oz bottles for instance that lasts for 1 month, is it possible to recieve (2) 1 oz bottles?
 
Good question. I've been getting HCG in 10000IU format which comes with 10mL of Bac Water. I'm sure I've heard of them selling packages half that size. I'll ask my Doc when I see him.
 
If it's coming un-recomped and you recomp it with BAC water and then keep in the fridge in a dark container (no light), it should remain usable 4-6 months. Yes it might loose some % of efficiency but it will/should still work.
 
that's exactly what I've been doing bro. But the package says to do that, and then additionally says to throw it out after 30 days.

Perhaps it is a weaker formula.
 
Ya all meds have an experation date, most are also still very effective way past that date of stored correct.

For more subjective opinions read around on the "aas" froums, most "bros" will tell ya Hcg is still effective 4-6 months after BAC water recomp if stored correct.

Also more objectively as part of my Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) treatment I was Scriped one 11,000iu bottle of HCG to go along with my 4 month script for 150mg test c a week. So the clinic must know the Hcg is good for at least 4 months after recomp.
 
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hmm.. I have read the forums where guys say it works for longer.

There are a few variables. Mine was kept in the door shelf of the fridge. It may have been rattled too much with the door opening and closing. From what I've read, you're not supposed to shake HCG as it is such a delicate compound.

I can only go by the symptoms I feel and notice. I'll talk to my Doc about this mid Feb.
 
Time for an update video to let the YouTube users who are not signed up on Steroidology in on what's going on.

During the video, do what the hip-hop crowd does and throw a shout-out "at ya boi JOWS6, (AKA James)." :)
 
Quick Update Vid: Done 6 weeks of HCG. Had blood sample taken for total T this morning. Conclusion on HCG working after 30 days.

youtube.com/watch?v=kmNhE9bCHmA if the embed doesn't work.

 
Very slightly better. If I had to guess at my T level, and of course this is very unscientific, but I'd say I'm in the 400s. It will be very interesting to get my blood test back and see how my levels have changed from the HCG.
 
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